A. S. R. S.
14TH JANUARY 1910
L. B. & S. C.
extracted from a open meeting at Battersea
At the Masons' Arms, Battersea, a crowded meeting was held on the 3rd inst. to hear the report of the men's representatives on the Central Conciliation Board, L.B.&S.C., re the settlement arrived at by the board. Bros. T. Pocock (traffic & goods department), chairman men's side, A. Gill (loco. department), secretary, and W. Howard (engineering department), representatives of traffic, loco. and engineering departments Sectional Board respectively, with Councillor J. Dobson, organising secretary, A.S.R.S., were present.
Bro. A. Gill reported that although great efforts were made on behalf of the loco. department, the company's side declined to give anything unless the men's side declined to give anything unless the men's side were prepared to forego their present guaranteed week, which the men's side declined to do, and he attributed part of the blame for this unsuccessful effort to the action of some loco. men who had promoted a petition in opposition to their efforts. The settlement had been agreed upon for three years, and arrangements made for procedure. If any dispute should arise out of the settlement the Central Board will define the point in dispute. He further was of the opinion that good must accrue from the meetings other than the financial benefits which had been obtained.
The following resolution was carried with one dissenting:
"That this meeting approves of the action of our representatives on the Central Conciliation Board and the settlement arrived at, and is fully convinced the Conciliation Boards are of little benefit to workers without organisation. We, therefore, invite all grades of railwaymen to unite with us in the A.S.R.S. to enable us to secure the desired reforms."
Councillor J. Dobson spoke a few words in support, and emphasised the need of unity in the ranks of the men.
A. S. R. S.
28TH JANUARY 1910
BRIGHTON No.1
extracted from branch report
The first meeting of the year was Heldon Sunday last, with a good start. Six new members accepted (three firemen).
Several claims for suspension allowance made and granted. Several claims also on branch Benevolent Fund granted.
It was decided to nominate our secretary, Mr. A. Gill, for A.G.M., and Mr. Allison, of Croydon branch, for T.U.C.
Conciliation Board's result also elicited sone favourable comment.
The suspensions n the loco. department call forth some remarks and the secretary was instructed to investigate.
Railway accident on the
L.B.S.C.R.
PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN
Stoats Nest 28th January 1910
Involving Brighton Driver John Thompsett & Fireman unknown
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A. S. R. S.
4TH FEBRUARY 1910
TRAIN WRECKED
BRIGHTON EXPRESS DERAILED
7 KILLED; 26 INJURED
An accident by which seven persons were killed and 26 or 27 injured occurred on Saturday afternoon at Stoat's Nest Station, on the London, Brighton, and South Coast. Stoat's Nest is 15 miles from London and the 3.40 express from Brighton Central had reached there on its way to Victoria, London. It is suggested that the couplings of the train gave way or that the points got out of order, but as to this nothing can be said with certainly. However, the train divided, the engine, a powerful Atlantic, going for some distance with the first four coaches and leaving seven others detached, although still running at a good pace. The first of the carriages which were left behind was a third class which was capable of accommodating 70 persons, but hard only about 20 occupants at the time. It is reported as having been "jerked into the air." Then it left the metals, ran into Stoat's Nest station, brought down a signal post and a water crane, and, finally, having hit the ramp, turned completely over.
By this time five of its occupants had been killed, and also two men who were in the station -- Mr. Rose, foreman of works to Messrs. C. Hall and Company, lime merchants; and B. Willard, a foreman bricklayer. Mr. Rose had just returned from paying his men their wages, and was about to cross the line when the carriage knocked him down, killing him instantaneously. The remaining coaches of the latter part of the train also left the metals, but all the passengers in them had the fortune to escape serious injury.
KILLED AND INJURED
The bodies of four of the seven who were killed were identified on Saturday and the others on Sunday. Their name were as under:-
William John Rose, B. Willard, Mrs. Henry Beere, Mrs. Emma Side, Miss Elizabeth Cate, Mrs. Mary Ann Spencer and Miss Charlotte Mary Carter.
THE INJURED
The following injured passengers were removed. to Croydon Hospital:-
Andrew Steel, W.J. Cole, George Willian Spencer, Sarah Lines, Miss Evelyn Gay, M. Tierre Lecog, and James Hudson,
Three of the injures were taken to the Smitham Nursing Home:-
Miss Alic Dapner, Miss Jane Brandon and Rev. Thomas Evans.
Ten of the injured were detained in hospital. All received their injuries in the carriages which toppled over.
AT THE STATION
The stationmaster made it his first care when he sae the carriage topple over to block the line against all trains that nearly due. He found that the London Bridge portion of the express which on Saturday is run separately, was still at the Quarry Station, five miles away, and signals were sent that it must not come through. Then attention was given to the injured, some of whom were struggling to get out of the wreckage and were uttering cries of pain. Four got out apparently unhurt. Others emerged from the carriage windows in a more or less shaken and dilapidated condition. Among the dying passengers was a Frenchwoman, supposed to have been a native of Paris She was terribly injures and soon passed away. Her Husband who was travelling with her was reported to have hd both thighs broken.
As the news of the disaster spread an excited crowd gathered around the station, and some were able to help. These included eight doctors, some nurses, and members of fire brigades with ambulances. Dr. Kellett happened to be travelling in the express with his wife, returning from their honeymoon t Brighton. There were in the front part of the train, and the doctor, on coming back to Stoat's Nest. attended to the injured. According to some accounts the Princess Christian troop of Boy Scouts mustered at the station and helped to remove the dead and injured. About 20 of the passengers who were not very badly hurt were able to of to London by special train and thence home. The bodies of the dead were removed to a waiting room to await identification.
The scene at night was weird in the extreme. By the light of flickering lamps 250 men were engaged with a huge steam crane in removing the broken and tangled framework of the carriage from the platform. Mr. Forbes, the general manager of the line, and other leading officials were present. Early on Sunday morning the whole of the debris had been cleared away.
THE STOAT'S NEST DISASTER
For some time past we have been free from serious accidents in which the public have been involved, but on Saturday last we were once more forcibly reminded of the dangers which attend railway travelling. Our sympathies to day go out to the relatives of the unfortunate seven who were killed and also to those injures in this disaster, as well as to the L.B.&S. Company, on whose line the accident occurred. The inquiry on Tuesday did not elucidate the mystery, though it would appear that "facing points" were a contributing cause, One of the wheel axles of the coach which left the rails was twisted, and this was apparently due to a defect or to the "facing points." Is it not time these were abolished on all main lines, or speed reduced to reasonable proportions when passing over them? The former seems the better solutions. In any case it is hoped the Board of Trade inspector's report will throw more light on this regrettable accident.
A. S. R. S.
11TH FEBRUARY 1910
PURLEY
Meeting held on the 3rd inst., when it was unanimously resolved:
"That this meeting of the Purley Branch of the A.S.R.S. tenders its sincere sympathy to the relatives and friends of the killed and with those injured in the lamentable railway accident at Stoat's Nest Station on the 29th ult., and hope the latter will speedily make the best possible recovery."
It is pleasing to put it on record that all the railwaymen living near, upon hearing of the disaster, hastened to give all possible assistance to the passengers, some off ur members being first upon the scene, and that in a very short time the passengers were transferred to another train, and the injured sent to hospital by special train.
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NEWHAVEN
An open meeting was held in the club room on Sunday.
Councillor J.H. Dobson gave an excellent address.
Bro. J. Browning also appealed to the "nons" to join, and the following resolution was carried:
"That this meeting is of the opinion that conciliation and arbitration is of little benefit to workers without a strong organisation, we, therefore, invite all railwaymen to join the A.S.R.S., and would urge all workers to unitedly use their political power to bring about desired reforms."
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ELECTRIFICATION AND ITS RESULTS
At the meeting of the London, Brighton, and South Coast Company on the 3rd inst. Lord Bessborough, the chairman, bore remarkable testimony to the excellent results which had followed from the electrification of the South London Branch. in the very first week they had an increase of 40,000 passengers, and during the two months that the electrified line had been open they had carried no fewer than 440,000 more passengers. They had, he said, got back nearly all the traffic which they had lost on this section, and it is not surprising to learn that the Brighton board are contemplating the further electrification of the metropolitan branches.
A. S. R. S.
18TH FEBRUARY 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting held on the 11th inst. Two new members accepted.
Correspondence re L.B.&S.C. motormen; their rate of pay is far below that paid to other men for such work, and efforts are to be made to enable them to assert their manhood in claiming wages compatible with the class of work performed.
A. S. R. S.
11TH MARCH 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting held on the 4th inst.
The delegates of the L.B.&S.C. loco. men gave a report upon the efforts made re the displacement of steam enginemen and firemen by the electrification of the South London line, stating that no satisfaction could be obtained.
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L. B. & S. C. LOCO. MEN
The L.B.&S.C loco. men's grievance go many reductions by the displacement of the steam engines and the introduction of electric traction does not appear to receive the attention of the directors in a manner likely to satisfy the men, and by the extension of the electrification the men are likely to be still further affected. it is no good adopting that ineffective process of leaving it to a few men to attend as a deputation, and because they fail at the first time of asking to allow the matter to drift. That is not the manner in which the other men on electrified lines have maintained their standard of wages. How long will the L.B.&S.C. loco. men allow their position to be undermined in this way? Men with many years of driving are gradually losing their positions; promotion for firemen and cleaners is dead. Although the men have had many years of training with Westinghouse brakes and of running trains, that does not count for much against inexperience, when it is the question of £.s.d., even the risk the public run when riding in trains behind inexperienced men does not appear to account for much. But how long will the loco. men allow this to go on? Other grades take the position only because the loco. men will not throw off their apathy and assert their manhood.
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A MISLEADING CIRCULAR
During the course of its history the A.S.R.S. has many times been blamed for the issue of circulars which, in the opinion of those concerned, did not convey an exact statement of the facts. We cannot recall a single instance in which such a criticism was justified. Both the A.S.R.S. and the companies have, however, reason to complain of the circular which has been issued by the Associated Society of Enginemen and Firemen, and which is now being circulated as a statement upon which its case as a separate organisation is based. Let there be no mistake. We do not deny the right of the society to separate existence. If loco. me believe they can do more effective work as a separate organisation they are within their rights in making the attempt, and no one can prevent them doing so. But such an attempt ought to stand or fall on its merits, and the case should not be prejudiced by statements which it is impossible either to substantiate or justify. Further, the consequences f a separatist policy must be accepted, and the division which it entails must be debited with the results which clearly flow from it. It is not our purpose now to discuss this policy or its results. We have done so frequently, and history is there to appeal to when necessary. Our purpose at the present moment is simply to draw attention to to some of the inaccurate and misleading statements contained in the circular referred to. These statements may be divided into two -- those which deal with the work and those which deal with the reward and conditions of work. That the work of an engineman is an onerous one no one can deny, but it would appear that the Associated Society either exaggerate it or want to reduce the driver to an automaton. Take the following passage:-
Of what earthly use are signal or heir interlocking without the care and forethought of the driver and his mate? Nothing has been done to compel you to shut off at the right moment, or apply the brake in time to stop under all conditions of weather nothing has been done even for you to be able at all times to see signals.
Could anything be more misleading? Almost everything has been done which human ingenuity could devise to warn drivers when to stop; if they could be compelled to stop the skill and responsibility which attaches to the occupation would be gone. Surely it is not, in ordinary circumstances and with the safeguards provided, too much to expect a skilled man to shut off at the right moment and apply the brakes at the right time. To minimise mechanical appliances and maximise the human factor is all very well, but it should be done with some regard to facts and without undue exaggeration. In this case the exaggeration is so apparent as to destroy much of legitimate case which might be made out.
To continue these examples of possibly unconscious exaggeration. Here is another specimen:-
You are expected to obey all orders, no matter by whom given, or how ridiculous or impracticable they may be ........ whatever has happened you must be to blame, no one else could do wrong, because all others in the railway service have power to give orders, you obey.
Again:-
You ought to to have the same authority as to the movements of our engine as the captain of a ship, and other grades ought not to be allowed to interface unless they have the responsibility.
These paragraphs are not in the supreme sense true; they mislead because they overstate the case. It is true that of late years the driver has become more subordinate to the traffic department, but even now the practice is by no means uniform, and it is safe to say there is not a single railway where a driver is compelled to obey every order from everybody, no matter how ridiculous it may be. On every line there is some limit and a point at which the driver is supreme in command. nor is it true to say he must bear all responsibility. Where power is responsibility allows -- and a man who understands his work and has provided himself with the necessary protection can usually bring home that responsibility in the long run. The analogy between a captain of a ship and a driver of a locomotive is especially unfortunate. There is in reality no such comparison possible. Where the cases are parallel the power is the same.
Take the case as to the working conditions. Here are a few samples;-
You are the worst paid class of workmen in Great Britain.
You ought to....... like other artisans, to have full control of your own trade and conditions.
The payment of locomotivemen on all companies should be alike.
The first statement is entirely untrue, and shows a lack of comparative wage conditions which deplorable. We do not say loco. men are too well paid. On the contrary, we subscribe to the view that in comparison with their work and responsibility they are not paid sufficient -- but to say they are not paid sufficient -- but to say they are the worst paid class in Great Britain is a travesty of the facts. The second statement is equally untrue. No class of artisan has full control of any trade or of the working conditions. The control varies in proportion to the strength of the organisation, but in no case can it be or ought it to be a full control. there are others to be considered besides the workers in a particular trade, and the employee have always and necessary -- so long as industry is carried on in its present from -- a very large say in the matter -- a say which is much too large in most cases. The third statement is not even a counsel of perfection. It goes beyond that. It asks the impossible as things are. To make the payment alike would be to create inequalities nd to make the better the worse case. If the statement were only qualified to the extent that "given equal work there should be equal pay," we should agree, but to demand uniform wages where the conditions and the work are not uniform is to ask for what would neither be fair nor equitable in the case of both employed and employers alike.
We desire to deal with one other point only. It is this. The circular deals with the relation of the loco. men to other grades, and it states:-
You allow other grades of the service to dictate to you your conditions.
You allow them to hinder your progress.
Here it is asserted that both on the active and passive side loco. men's conditions are rules by the other grades. This is, as the context shows, an attempt to shift the responsibility for whatever backwardness exists on to the A.S.R.S. It is an absolutely untrue statement. The progress of enginemen cannot in the final result be hindered by anyone but themselves and circumstances. As to dictation by other grades, that can only be characterised in true fashion by the application of a good old Saxon word of three letters. The fact of the matter is that the backwardness of loco. men is due to the fact they are divided into two societies. Great play is made with the statement that 65 per cent. are organised. So they may be -- but the Associated Society cannot command their allegiance, nor unfortunately, can the A.S.R.S. More than half, however, belong to the latter, and nearly the whole of the work has been done on their behalf has been done by it. There can be no real progress until this division is healed and we all loco. men not to follow the narrow grade policy recommended in this circular, based as it is upon statements so palpably and grossly exaggerated, but to rally to the call for a united organisation in which the whole of the railway service shall march side by side to its emancipation.
A. S. R. S.
18TH MARCH 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting was held on the 11th inst., with a good attendance.
The delegates re L.B.&S.C. loco. men's grievance of displacement of steam enginemen and firemen owing to the electrification of the South London Line gave an interesting report, and were accorded thanks for the report and further discussion of the matter adjourned.
A. S. R. S.
6TH MAY 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting held on the 29th inst.
The question of L.B.&S.C. loco men's grievances was again before the meeting adjourned. Will the L.B.&S.C. loco. men please note and attend in force next meeting, as it is desirable that all should know what is under consideration, and the their opinion may assist, as the decision may affect every man?
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PURLEY
Meeting held on the 28th ult., with a very good attendance.
Important correspondence re L.B.&S.C. loco. men to hand, and held over to next meeting.
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TUNBRIDGE WELLS
Ordinary meeting held on the 1st inst., moderate attendance.
Important business was before the branch in connection with our brothers on the footplate brothers on the footplate, and secretary was instructed to arrange a joint meeting if possible to discuss same.
A. S. R. S.
13th MAY 1910
PORTSMOUTH
Driver W. Sandell
It is with deep regret for the Portsmouth Branch records the death of Bro. W. Sandell, driver, L.B.&S.C., who met his death on 2nd ints. by falling of his engine. Of a kind and genial disposition, he was respected and liked by all. Ever ready to assist any workmate in trouble, and a staunch Trade Unionist. Our brother leaves a window and eight children to mourn his loss. Three will receive the Orphan Fund benefit. The interment took place at Kingston Cemetery on the 6th inst. Six of his workmates acted as bearers, and a large number of members and railwaymen followed There was a beautiful wreath from the men in the locomotive department, also one from the branch.
DEATH IN SERVICE
2nd May 1910
Portsmouth engine driver W. Sandall died in service on the 2nd May 1910, aged 45.
Driver Sandall slipped off the engine framing.
Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 23rd January 1891
3RD JUNE 1910
The monthly meeting held on the 27th ult., with a good attendance.
At commencement a vote of condolence was moved with the widow and family of our late Bro. Sandell who met his death by fall off his engine. There was a lot correspondence re compensation claim on behalf of the widow of Bro. W. Sandell, the final letter from the company intimating their willingness to pay £300 into the County Court.
Train arriving at Horsham from Dorking in 1910
A. S. R. S.
13TH MAY 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting held on the 6th inst.
The grievances of the loco. men on L.B.&S.C. came up for discussion again, and the secretary given instruction. It is the duty of. every loco. man to attend his branch and assist his branch and assist in these matters, which are seriously affecting his position.
A. S. R. S.
17TH JUNE 1910
L. B. & S. C. CENTRAL BOARD SETTLEMENT
On the 12th inst. an open meeting was held in the Co-operative Society's Lecture Hall, Fratton, when Bros. A. Gill and T. Pargeter gave a very able report of settlement, dealing fully with the whole of the programme and with the settlement that the board had been to effect, pointing out that if the men would see that they strengthened their organisation and forwarded to their respective secretaries any case that they may have where the local officials were violating the settlement, they could assure them their case would be taken up with the company's side of the board, who, they felt sure, meant to keep their part of the agreement. They pointed out that the boards were certainly a great advance on anything that they previously had in the matter of settling grievances that exist, and urged the men to use them.
A resolution was moved by Bros. Loader and Harris, both making a strong appeal to the non members that were present to join with their fellows in the A.S.R.S.
The resolution was carried unanimously, and there being several non members present we expect an increase in our membership next meeting.
A. S. R. S.
24TH JUNE 1910
BATTERSEA
Meeting held on the 17th inst.
Several cases of suspension on L.B.&S.C. for matters which certainly do not justify such punishment, and if this suspension or booking men off continues many of the men express the opinion that they must appeal to the board of directors for some consideration at the hands of local officials.
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PURLEY
Meeting held 16th inst., with a good attendance.
Interesting discussion took place re affairs in the locomotive department, L.B.&S.C. a member gave notice he had been suspended from duty; case left over for our member's attendance, it being reported he had been reinstated.
A. S. R. S.
8TH JULY 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting held on the 1st inst.
The question of suspension on L.B.&S.C. in loco. department came in for a good discussion, and secretary instructed.
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PURLEY
Meeting held on 30th ult., with a fair attendance.
Decided to hold our branch meetings alternately at Coulsdon and Purley for the convenience of the members residing in the respective districts, the first to be held at Coulsdon 7th inst. and every three weeks from the date.
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MATTERS ON THE BRIGHTON
The L.B&S.C. locomotive department is at present undoubtedly in a bad way, signs are not wanting that the men are suffering from various troubles. These are agitating their minds not a little, and something will have to be done to relieve those so afflicted. But to apply a remedy for such troubles it is only necessary to have closely watched the symptoms to know that it will require some very strong doses of the curative to effect an improvement, and to eventually and effectually rectify those matters. We find that the electrification of the South London line is to be extended to other parts, which will not only cause further displacement of steam enginemen and firemen, but, as the officials of the locomotive department are not required to supervise this new power of traction, there is a possibility of reduction in the status of at least some locomotive officials, and it would appear that to relieve their minds of such inevitable agitation they have turned their attention to the staff at present under their supervision, as if by a sudden inspiration, and we are meeting complaints of harsh treatment, with a deluge of irritating punishment indiscriminately administered for the most imaginative offences. Suspensions from duty, either by order of the superintendent or other officials, are the order of the day and under such conditions the directors of any railway must eventually have to deal with the position. And we would suggest unity in the ranks of the men and an appeal to the Earl of Bessborough and the board of directors.
A. S. R. S.
15TH JULY 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting held on the 15th inst.
The loco. men's grievances again discussed and the secretary instructed.
A. S. R. S.
22ND JULY 1910
BATTERSEA
The usual meeting held on the 15th inst.
The question of L.B.&S.C. motormen's and their working for such low wages came up, and the secretary instructed to reply to correspondence.
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NEW CROSS
An open meeting was held on the 17th inst, at the Hatcham Liberal Club, under the auspices of the Brighton District Council. A special invitation was given to loco. men to be present, when a number of the A.S.L.E.&F and the A.S.R.S. were present to discuss the reasons for the infliction of the severe punishments and suspensions and other grievances that exist in the loco. department of the L.B.&S.C. The local branch of the A.S.R.S. having previously corresponded with the branch of the A.S.L.E.&F. with a view to joint action being taken to endeavour to remedy these grievances, and the refusal of the latter to have anything to do with same has caused dissension even in the ranks of that body. Several members of the A.S.L.E.&F. having expressed a desire to hear correspondence, the chairman read same. Addreess were given, and questions were invited. The following resolution was moved:
"That this meeting protests against the action of the members of the A.S.L.E.&F. in refusing to join hands with the A.S.R.S. in an effort to redress the many grievances that exist in the loco. department, L.B.&S.C., and call upon all enginemen to join the A.S.R.S., which caters for all grades of railwaymen."
Before putting the resolution to the meeting the chairman asked for any amendment. None being forthcoming, the resolution was put and carried unanimously.
A. S. R. S.
12TH AUGUST 1910
BRIGHTON DISTRICT COUNCIL
extracted from the council's report
The ordinary meeting was held at Brighton the on the 31st ult., the following branches being represented: Brighton, New Cross, Croydon, Purley, Three Bridges Tunbridge Wells, Newhaven, Brighton No.1, Brighton no.2, and Lewes.
Bro. Gill reported re open meeting held at New Cross on the 17th ult., and good results were reported. A resolution was unanimously adopted condemnatory of the action of the A.S.L.E.&F. in refusing to co-operate with the A.S.R.S.
A letter was read from the locomotive superintendent stating that notices can be posted at Fratton loco. shed providing they have been submitted to the foreman for approval.
The secretary instructed to arrange for next Council meeting and an open meeting at Eastbourne or Hastings if possible.
A. S. R. S.
26TH AUGUST 1910
BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report
The usual meeting held on the 19th inst.
The members decided to co operate with New Cross Branch in efforts to be made by the L.B.&S.C. loco. men to protect their interests in the extension of the electrification of the suburban lines, and the subject will be discussed by the next two meetings.
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CROYDON
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The usual weekly meeting was held on Friday last. Four new members.
Letter read from New Cross Branch re electrification of the L.B.&S.C. suburban lines and the future effect this is likely to have on the position of locomotivemen.
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NEW CROSS
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Our weekly meeting on the 20th inst. was again full of enthusiasm, when we again had the pleasure of accepting eight new members, with the promise of more for next meeting. Bravo, another member earned a silver medallion.
Arrangements are being made for an open meeting on September 11th to discuss the extension of the L.B.&S.C. electrification and effect upon the workers.
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PURLEY
extracted from branch report
Meeting held at Coulsdon on 18th inst., with a very good attendance.
Decided to being the question of men having to stand off several days before being allowed to resume duty after being passed by the company's doctor as fit for work before the Brighton District Council.
Circular letter from New Cross re L.B.&S.C. electrification to hand, and decided to support the proposal contained therein.
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TUNBRIDGE WELLS
extracted from branch report
Meeting held on the 21st inst., with a good attendance, when important correspondence affecting our brothers on the footplate was before the branch. We elected a delegate to attend an open meeting on connection with same.
A. S. R. S.
2ND SEPETMBER 1910
NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report
The monthly meeting was held on the 28th ult. Attendance of members was all that could be desired. Full interest and enthusiasm again displayed in the discussions upon the business before the meeting.
Mass of correspondence and replies from different branches were dealt with re the extension of the electrification of the L.B.&S.C. suburban lines, which speaks well for the success of our open meeting at the Railway Tavern on the 11th inst. at 7 p.m., when Mr. Walter Hudson, M.P., will preside. Handbills will be ready for distribution, and all members are enjoined to see that every non member has one with an invitation to be present. We also have one or two presentations to make at that meeting.
A long and important discussion took place re heavy goods trains being brought to a sandhill upon rising gradients with only one guard. The said trains frequently have to be divided, the fireman has to ride on the last truck of the first position, whilst the guard is left to protect the other portion left on the running road. This means the driver is only one left on the engine at a time when two men are most needed. however this and the inadequate brake power on the L.B.&S.C. will be dealt with in another quarter so more anon
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HORSHAM
extracted from branch report
Ordinary meeting held on 29ult., with a fair attendance.
Letter read from New Cross Branch re electrification of the L.B.&S.C. suburban lines and the future effect this is likely to have on the position of locomotivemen, and the subject was well discussed.
A. S. R. S.
9TH SEPETMBER 1910
BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report
The usual meeting held on the 2nd inst. Four new members
The L.B.&S.C loco. men's grievances again considered with correspondence re open meeting at New Cross to be held on the 11th instead.
Further suspension caused by engines falling. No Explanation appears sufficient for the officials. The men are punished for a failure from whatever cause.
A. S. R. S.
16TH SEPETMBER 1910
L. B. & S. C. LOCO.
Under the auspices of the New Cross Branch A.S.R.S., a most successful open meeting was held on the 11th inst. to consider the displacement of loco. men by the electrification of the L.B.&S.C. suburban lines. Our large club room was overcrowded, and a large number were unable to find seats. The majority present were loco. men of both the A.S.R.S. and the A.S.LE.&F. and non member from all loco. centres on the Brighton systems.
Mr. Walter Hudson, M.P., presided, and outlined the position of the enginemen as it is today and what it will be in the future unless some definite steps are taken to prevail upon the company the necessity of distributing future appointments as motormen amongst the loco. men, as it is these men who have had to suffer and will continue to suffer by being displaced as each section become electrified. He said it appeared the company had hitherto appointed motormen from the traffic department, not because the traffic men could do the work better than an enginemen, but simply because of the miserable low rate of pay. To learn that the present motormen were at first offered 25s. per week as a commencing rate was scandalous, and then altered to 28s., which was still far below the standard of any other company, and for the slightest error in their working to reduce them 1s. and 2s. a week for one, two, and in some instances three months, was more than any reasonable man would stand, and he ventures to say that if these conditions of things prevailed upon other certain lines they would not be tolerated with for long without some effort being made to remedy them. He impressed upon all present that what steps they decided upon that night to take to remedy these bad condition of things, to bear in mind the need of organisation of their forces in one society, and that the A.S.R.S., and let all grades work in unity with each other, and thus assist the motormen to get fair remuneration for their work. In concluding, he appealed to all non members to at once join the A.S.R.S.
The following resolution was moved by two loco. men, and supported by a Great Central enginemen and signalman:
"That in the opinion of this meeting of the L.B.&S.C. men, the great need of th the time is a solidified body of all grades of railwaymen in one society as the only possible power to prevent the continued reduction in the standard of labour on electric trains, also the means of securing fair remuneration for all class of work that may have to be performed, and calls upon all non members to at once join the A.S.R.S."
It was also resolved, on the motion of the loco. men:
"That at this meeting of representatives from all loco. centres on the L.B.&S.C. system that a deputation be elected to interview the general manager and the directors upon the question of the displacement of loco. men by the electrification of their suburban lines, and with a view of loco. men filling these positions as motormen in future, and raising the men that are at present holding those positions up to reasonable standard wage."
Both resolutions were carried unanimously.
During the meeting Mr. Hudson presented a cheque value £10 to a late engine driver as the society's grant from the Optional Benevolent Fund, he having failed to pass the company's test. Mr. Hudson also presented a silver medallion to another member for proposing new members. both members suitably replied and returned thanks towards the branch and the society.
A vote of thanks to the chairman brought one of the best meetings held here for some time past to a close.
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HASTINGS
An open meeting was held at Hastings on 11th inst. under the auspices of the Brighton District Council.
Bro. T. Pocock presided, and urges the need of united action, both industrially and politically, being particularly severe on those Troglodytes of the Osborne type.
Bro. T. Pargeter followed, giving an interesting resume of the working of Conciliation boards, and what was necessary to get the best use out of them.
Bro. J. Hills also spoke a few words on the present position of the workers, also as to their position when in slavery, it being an open question which was the worst. The remedy is educate and organise.
A. S. R. S.
23RD SEPETMBER 1910
BATTERSEA
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The usual meeting held on16th inst., with a good attendance.
There was a good discussion re L.B.&S.C. loco. men's position, and it was decided to hold an open meeting on 25th inst. at the branch room, to which all are invited.
A. S. R. S.
30TH SEPETMBER 1910
BATTERSEA
L. B. & S. C. LOCO. MEN
MR. HUDSON AT BATTERSEA
An open meeting of L.B.&S.C. railwaymen was held at the Masons' Arms, Battersea, on Sunday, 25th inst., for the purpose of considering the question of displacement of locomotivemen by cheap labour through the electrification of the suburban lines, and its effect upon the railway workers generally, also to appoint delegates to act with those from other loco. depots. The room was full of earnest men, who showed their great desire for unanimity in their efforts. Mr. Walter Hudson, M.P., presided. In his opening remarks he stated he could only describe L.B.&S.C. as the worst kind of sweating on the railway. He viewed this matter very broadly, and would recommend the loco. men to look beyond their own position, That men working for such miserable pittance was a blow struck at the loco. men, and would stagnate all future opportunity for promotion. He recognised that an important principle was at stake -- that of pulling down the status of the loco. men. If there were others present of the other sections of the service, it affected them as much as loco. men. If they can undermine one class the others must look out, as it will be them next. On other electrical railways the wages were not so low as those of the L.B.&S.C. line. On the Metro-politan, for instance, where the wages have been fixed by discussion and amicable settlement the motormen receive 6s. per day in the first year and rise to 7s. per day by increases of 3d. per day annually. The continued increase claims of the landlords who put rents up when the rates go up and forget to take them off when the rates go down and the decrease in the spending power the men must consider.
The first resolution, moved by a driver and seconded by a fireman. was carried unanimously, viz:-
"That this open meeting of L.B.&S.C. men is of the opinion that the great need of the time is the organisation of railwaymen of all grades in one society to prevent the continued reduction in the status of our employment by the introduction of the electrification of our railways, and as a means of securing fair remuneration for all classes of work performed, therefore we call upon all non member to at once join the A.S.R.S.as the first step to secure this end."
The second resolution, moved and seconded by drivers, was carried unanimously, viz.:-
"That this meeting representing loco, men from various depots on the L.B.&S.C., decides to appoint two Battersea men to act as part of the deputation to interview the general manager and directors upon the question of the displacement of loco. men by the electrification of the suburban lines, and with a view to loco. men filling the positions as motormen in future, also improving the conditions of employment of the men who at present are holding such positions."
Two delegates were elected and the usual votes of thanks closed a good meeting.
A. S. R. S.
14TH OCTOBER 1910
NEW CROSS
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Weekly meeting held on 8th inst., with a fair attendance.
The electrification question was again discussed, and hope was expressed that the deputation appointed to interview the general manager and directors re the same would get to work as early as possible.
21ST OCTOBER
Weekly meeting held on the 15th inst.
L.B.&S.C. electrification again under discussion; same will be before our next meeting on the 22nd, when all are requested to attend at 7 p.m.
A. S. R. S.
28TH OCTOBER 1910
BATTERSEA
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The usual meeting held on 21st inst.
Bro. H. Richardson acknowledged receipt of £30 superannuation grant, and a vote of sympathy passed to him, members expressed wishes for his speedy recovery from his illness.
It was agreed to ask our E.C. to sanction a movement re L.B.&S.C. loco. men; member are asked position, to attend their branch regularly if the business is meant to be done expeditiously and effectively, and to keep themselves posted with events. It is evident this sweating of men on electric trains cannot last much longer.
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NEW CROSS
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Meeting held on the 22nd inst., was another success, both regarding attendance of members and increase of membership.
L.B.&S.C. electrification again had a warm discussion.
A. S. R. S.
25TH NOVEMBER 1910
THE WEST CROYDON ACCIDENT
SYDNEY FARMER
The remarks of the coroner who conducted the inquiry into the death of Sydney Farmer, who is reported as saying that accidents among railwaymen were largely due to their indifference to the dangers in which they worked, were not over-endowed with wisdom. It is easy to say that an ordinary person would exercise caution when in the vicinity of railway lines, and for a person whose sole business is the protection of his own body to make a casual journey on the running lines would appear to be not difficult of accomplishment. A man employed about the running lines has also to apply his mind to his work, and in a busy yard his mind has to be employed at a pressure that coroners and other amateurs know nothing of. So far as the inquiry into Farmer's death is concerned, proper evidence not appear to have been given to the court. The general opinion among the men is that Farmer was killed owning to the scandalous manner in which the company allow the ashes and clinkers to accumulate between the engine shed road and the carriage road. There is between these roads a space of about 10ft., but the ashes lay from both rails in a heap, and if there is a train shunting back in the carriage road and a man steps off his engine he is likely to step down off the top of the ashes under the train. Because of the cinders Farmer had to walk in the four foot, and no one made this fact clear at the inquest. Not long since a cleaner was killed here and while the yard is in its present condition more men will be done to death. Let the place be cleaned, and let the men live.
A. S. R. S.
9TH DECEMBER 1910
BATTERSEA
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The usual meeting was held on 9th inst.
Notice was given that the delegates appointed re L.B.&S.C. loco. men's grievances and electrification will give their report at our next meeting, 9th inst.; every L.B.&S.C. loco. men off duty should attend.
A. S. R. S.
16TH DECEMBER 1910
BATTERSEA
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The half year meeting was held on the 19th inst.
The best thanks of the branch are due for the many years of service rendered as treasurer by Bro. J. Plant.
L.B.&S.C. loco. men's delegates gave report of their interview with the general manager, and a delegate was appointed to attend mass at New Cross.
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DISTRICT COUNCIL
BRIGHTON
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The ordinary meeting was held at Brighton on the 4th inst., when the following branches were represented: Croydon, Battersea, New Cross, Three Bridges, Tunbridge Wells, Newhaven, Brighton No.1, Brighton No.2, and Lewes.
Correspondence from the superintendent of the line re light brakes on heavy goos and mineral trains. The question of the frequent occurrence of goods trains having to be divided on heavy gradients, leaving the driver only only on the engine for some distance, while the fireman has to ride on the last vehicle. The secretary instructed in both these matters.
Decided to hold the next Council meeting at Newhaven on January 15th, and an open meeting in the evening.