1912




Strike of coal miners, resulting in serious unemployment amongst 

Enginemen. Considerable payments during this year from the Society 

Funds in meeting out-of-work benefit claims.


Inauguration of the N.H.I. Section under the National Health 

Insurance Act of 1911.






 Peckham Branch of A.S.L.E.& F. was founded 

on the 30th January 1912


Newhaven Branch of A.S.L.E. & F. was founded 


on the 16th June 1912






A. S. R. S.

5TH JANUARY 1912

BATTERSEA

extracted from branch report



Usual meeting 29th ult. 


Several cases of suspension on L.B.&S.C. dealt with; members are anxious to know when this system of suspension for flimsy and often alleged offences is to cease, as cease it must, or the day is not far when the men will be compelled to rebel against it, and the directors will then possibly inquire the cause of dissatisfaction.






A. S. R. S.

12TH JANUARY 1912

BATTERSEA

extracted from branch report



Usual meeting held on 5th inst. 


Report of the first meeting of the joint branch committee of A.S.R.S., A.S.L.E.&F., and G.R.W.U., and it was a good start; arrangement in hand for a great gathering of railwaymen of the S.W. district of London, to be held at the Nine Elms baths, Battersea Park Road, on Sunday, February 11th, 6.30 p.m.; J.H. Thomas, M.P. (assistant secretary A.S.R.S.), Mr. Bermingham (organising secretary G.R.W.U.) will attend also Mr. Olrad (A.S.L.E.&F.) is invited, with others.

The branch adopted the recommendation of the committee, that the locomotivemen of the L.B.&S.C. do not adopt the suggested permanent deputation, as the Conciliation Board scheme as amended can meet the requirements. 

Bro. F. North was present, and the chairman handed to him the cheque for £30, being the superannuation grant, and members expressed their wishes that he may enjoy many years in retirement on his pension.


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CROYDON
extracted from branch report

The usual weekly meeting was held on 5th inst.

It was decided to arrange meeting of goods guards and shunter; also electric motormen to draft a programme for improved conditions with other centre. 

The secretary reported that arrangements had now been made to hold a joint mass meeting in the Public Hall, Croydon on February 11th, when Messrs. W. Hudson (A.S.R.S.), Bermingham (G.R.W.U.), and W. Warwick (A.S.L.E.&F.) will address the meeting.


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PURLEY
extracted from branch report

Meeting held 4th inst., when it was decided to hold all future meeting at Purley on Thursday, 7.30 p.m.

Correspondence re loco grievances, Coulsdon L.B.&S.C., relegated to loco grievance committee.

Decided to co-operate with other branches re mass meeting at Croydon on February 11th.






A. S. R. S.

19TH JANUARY 1912

CROYDON
extracted from branch report

The usual weekly meeting was held on Friday last, with good attendance.

The A.S.L.E.&F. have withdrawn from the joint meeting we are holding at Croydon on February 11th.


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L. B. & S. C. LOCOMEN


The man grievances of the men in the loco. department have recently been receiving the attention of the officials on this line, A deputation was received to discuss the grievances ,a and although some were to be rectified and others considered as a result of raw friendly discussion, much more could be done to make the lot of the men, their wives and families a little brighter. The company could avoid the man suspensions from duty, especially where the men are suspended pending inquiry or a decision in any matter which is reported to the head of the locomotive department. To suspend him from duty and deprive them and their families of the necessary funds to live when they are often not in fault is a great injustice, and a more humane system of investigation before punishment might be adopted. 


The compelling of men to stay at home on Sundays and visiting the shed to know what duty they have to take up on Monday morning, owing to their being unable to get the duty sheet posted up on Saturdays when the men leave duty, is another grievance. Promises in the past on this matter have been many, but the men still find them broken, and they are still unable to promise the wife or children a day from home when they have a Sunday off. 


The latest suggestion of the officials is that a permanent deputation be formed to discuss the grievances of the men with the officials. But would it not be better if the officials would give these matters attention when brought to their notice by the men immediately concerned, irrespective of whether with authority to settle, and not delay consideration with the usual, "It.      shall have consideration" or "Is having attention."Nothing done, except creating dissatisfaction among the men 




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FUSION OF FORCES


"A GREAT SCHEME"



At a meeting held In Manchester on December 28th, 29th, 30th, 1911 sub committees appointed by the four organisation who joined together in the national strike of August last met. One organisation, the A.S.L.E. & F., left before a final decision was come to, but the remaining members presented a scheme, which, with one or two slight alterations, was adopted by a joint conference of the three remaining Executive Committees, held at Unity House on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of the present week. 


The scheme in as following :-


On and alter a date to be hereinafter agreed there shall be established an organisation which be entitled "The National Union of Railwaymen."


It shall be composed at its inception of the members of the existing railway Trade Union who may decide to join the new body.


Any existing railway Trade Union not availing itself of the of the opportunity of joining the new organisation at its inception shall be eligible to join at a later date if they so desire.


Any person employed on any railway or in connection with any railway in the United Kingdom shall be eligible for membership.


The contributions and benefits of the union shall be the contributions and benefits of the above named societies. 


Provision shall be made by the E.C. for employment of the employes of the above unions in this union at not less than the pay received and conditions enjoyed at the date of fusion. In the event of any officer or member of the staff of either society not feeling justified in taking the new position he shall be suitably compensated. 


For the general administration of the work of the union there shall be an E.C. composed of president, secretary, and 24 representatives chosen by members of different districts.


For the purpose of electing the E.C. representatives, the country shall be divided into six electoral districts. Within this districts the various grades shall be divided into four electoral departments.


Each district shall elect one member from each of the departments named as their representatives on the Executive Committee.


The E.C. shall be divided into four departmental sub committees, comprising the representatives of the departments named. it shall be the duty of each sub committee to receive and consider all applications for improved conditions of labour, also to consider any complaints or appeal submitted by any branch or member in the respective departments and to report to the full E.C.


Before any improvement for better conditions of labour can be entered upon by any grade or department, it must first receive the sanction of the full E.C. Such sanction having been obtained the departmental sub committee shall conduct the business incidental to the movement.


The full E.C. shall consider and decide upon all matters of general finance and matters affecting the whole of the members.


Branches of the union shall, where practicable, elect their branch committees on the departmental pattern, and the sub committee shall in the same manner deal with the departmental business of the branch; the full branch committee dealing with the general business of the branch.


The electoral departments shall be classified as follows:-


Locomotive, Traffic, Goods and Carriage, Engineering Shops and Permanent Way.


RESOLUTION


The following resolutions were also carried unanimously:-


"That this Joint E.C. having carefully considered the report of the Fusion of Forces committee consider the latter scheme therein contained is best suited to effect the purpose desired. We, therefore, decide to submit it to a ballot of the members of the organisations represented here today, and trust that the whole of the members will record their votes in favour of the scheme submitted in order to bring about the unification of the railway unions."



"That this Joint Committee deeply regret the absence of the representatives of the A.S.L.E.&F. at this conference, but having regard to the vital importance of our business, which we are satisfied accurately reflects the desires and requirements of the rank and file of every grade in the railway service, felt compelled to proceed to discuss the scheme for a Fusion of Forces submitted to us by the sub committee, and having completed our labours and agreed upon a scheme which in our opinion adequately safeguards the position and gives complete autonomy to every grade in the service, express the earnest hope that the difficulty that now prevents the Associated Society from joining the scheme will be speedily removed, and that all societies will be united with one aim, one policy, viz., to improve the conditions of all grades in the service."  






LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report


I commenced the year by visiting our Battersea Branch secretary (who, I am sorry to say, has had a severe illness), for the purpose of making inquiries re a serious accident which happened to one our members of that branch. 

On the 13th (Jan) I paid another visit to Battersea re the before-mentioned case where our member had received the electric shock.

The following day (Thursday 25th) I visited Peckham, with a view to opening a branch of our Society among the Motormen on the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. I returned on the Monday (29th) and on Tuesday again visited Peckham, for the purpose of declaring the branch open as mentioned above. I returned not the Monday (29th) and on Tuesday again visited Peckham, for the purpose of declaring the branch open as mentioned above. I have no doubt this branch will soon embrace the majority of the motormen, as they have a lot of leeway to make up in their conditions of service, and the only way they can do it is by organising in our Society ad thus joining hands with other electric Motormen.

Already, electric Motormen, they are doing singly what it took two men to do under steam, and for less than half the amount that was paid the Enginemen and Fireman who they have superseded. This kind of thing is growing, for the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway is contemplating further extensions, while at the last yearly meeting, the Chairman of the London and South Western Railway directors told the shareholders he hoped in the near future to be able to announce that their suburban lines were electrified. This means displacing a large number of Enginemen and Firemen, as the Motormen take away the position which rightly belongs to the Locomotivemen.

* Locomotive Journal
March 1912







A. S. R. S.

2ND FEBRUARY 1912

BATTERSEA

extracted from branch report


The usual meeting held 26th ult., with a splendid attendance.


Bro. J. Plant, acting as chairman, presented to Bro. F. North (late driver L.B.&S.C.) a marble clock, umbrella, pipe and pouch, also an umbrella for Mrs. North, on his retirement from the L.B.&S.C. Company's service, and in consideration of his consistent Trade Unionism. The whole of the gathering, after listening to a few,  accorded him musical honours. At the previous branch meeting Bro. North was handed the old age grant of £30.



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PURLEY

extracted from branch report


Meeting held 25th ult.


This branch protests against the proposed additional Conciliation Board for the electrical department, L.B.&S.C., as the men in that department can be allocated to the present Conciliation Board. 



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THREE BRIDGES

extracted from branch report


The ordinary meeting was held Sunday last, and the following resolution was passed, to be placed before the next E.C. meeting.


"That we desire to call the attention of our E.C. to the deplorable condition of our organisation in the south. We consider the southern branches are not getting the assistance from our organisers which is absolutely necessary if we are to make progress. to many members an organiser is an unknown person. We therefore request our E.C. to at once consider the appointment of more organisers to try and bring about a better state of affairs. We are of opinion that any expenditure in this direction is money well spent." 


Very important business to bring before the next branch meeting.





ROUTE KNOWLEDGE AT 


BRIGHTON LOCO SHED


Extracted and adapted from the book

Yesterday Once More

By Fred Rich

 

In 1912, enginemen on the L.B.S.C.R. were still working a 10 hour day which very often 
stretched out to 12 hours or more, and in most cases each driver had his own engine 
exclusively to himself. Hence for the 126 engines shedded at Brighton at this time there were corresponding number of drivers, fireman and cleaners, in September 1919 the number of enginemen at Brighton loco shed, were approximately 400 in total: 112 drivers, 3 loco yard pilots, 161 firemen and 165 cleaners. Of these, the firemen included some who were passed for driving; and many of the cleaners were already approved for firing duties. Brighton enginemen during this time were working over all the L.B.S.C.R. lines, with the exception of the Hayling Island Branch and the East London Lines. 

Brighton men would work turns known as 'Doubles' & 'Rounders' ,  a 'Double' would 
involved working two return trips to London and being in excess of 200 miles and  a 
'Rounder' would involved working a train from Brighton - London - Portsmouth - Brighton or vice versa, and was slightly less than 200 miles. This type of work was synonymous with the 10 hour day that was being worked at this period of time and each driver having his own 
engine: these turns comes to end in 1919 when the introduction of the 8 hour day introduced 
and the engines were share between to drivers.

 

* the 'Doubles' and 'Rounders' would be worked with the introduction of the full 
electrification of the Brighton lines in 1938. 




PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN  


Peckham Rye Depot 





On Thursday 25th January W. Warwick Organising Secretary visited Peckham, with a view to opening a branch of our Society among the Motormen on the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. W. Warwick returned on the Monday 29th and on Tuesday again visited Peckham, for the purpose of declaring the Peckham branch open.  W. Warwick was in no doubt that the Peckham branch will soon embrace the majority of the motormen, as the Peckham Motormen have a lot of leeway to make up in their conditions of service, and the only way they can do it is by organising in our Society and thus joining hands with other electric Motormen.

Already, electric Motormen, they are doing singly what it took two men to do under steam, and for less than half the amount that was paid the Enginemen and Fireman who they have superseded. This kind of thing is growing, for the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway is contemplating further extensions, while at the last yearly meeting, the Chairman of the London and South Western Railway directors told the shareholders he hoped in the near future to be able to announce that their suburban lines were electrified. This means displacing a large number of Enginemen and Firemen, as the Motormen take away the position which rightly belongs to the Locomotivemen.

During February, W. Warwick held meetings at Peckham, and expressed that the Peckham branch is already justifying it’s existence, and if the Motormen will only band themselves together in this their own union, there is every hope that they may in the near future level themselves up to what s paid to their fellow Motormen in the London Tubes. W. Warwick was pleased to learn that many of the latter realise, that if something is not done in the near future they will have to come down to the Brighton motormen’s conditions, which are, to say the least, far below what they ought to be. He found there is a ready response by the London Tube motormen to assist their fellows on the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, and not only so, but we have it on the best authority that the London and South-Eastern Railway Company is about to electrify its local service, and the footplatemen on that railway will be well advised to be up and doing in regard to this matter, not forgetting that to be forewarned is to be forearmed. The London, Brighton and South Coast locomotive-men were to some extent caught napping when the company opened its electric portion, and that, with the two Societies question, so weakened the men's standing, that after a short skirmish with the general manager for the right of the locomotive-men to fill these positions, and the question of  reasonable wages for the responsibility the work entailed, they had to retire without gaining anything,  consequently there has been dissatisfaction ever since.

* Locomotive Journal
???? 1912

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING THE PIONEERING MOTORMEN OF THE L.B.S.& C.R. 

SEE SUB-PAGE OF 1909





ACCIDENT AT WORK 


26th January 1912

Brighton cleaner acting as a coal crane driver Sydney Fellingham (aged 21), who had only been a few days in this job. Two loaded wagons would not move by hand. Engine driver and acting foreman C. Read, called the engine in and as it was approaching the wagons, Fellingham went between the wagons to couple them. When they closed up, he was pinched between the buffers. The inexperience of Fellingham was only following the example of Read who should have ensured that a pole was used used, and also failed to check that all men were clear before the wagons were moved.







THE FOUNDING OF 

PECKHAM BRANCH OF A.S.L.E.& F.

30th JANUARY 1912

THE FIRST MOTORMEN ONLY BRANCH OF A.S.L.E.& F. 

FOUNDED ON THE L.B.& S.C.R.








A. S. R. S.

2ND FEBRUARY 1912

BATTERSEA BRANCH



The rest of the evening spent in harmony. Bro J. Plant, acting as chairman, presented to Bro. F. North (late driver L.B.&S.C.) a marble clock, umbrella, pipe and pouch, and also an umbrella for Mrs North, on his retirement from the L.B.&S.C. Company's service, and in considered of his consistent Trade Unionism. The whole of the gathering, after listening to a few words of thanks feeling expressed by Bro. North, accorded him musical honours. At the previous branch meeting Bro. north was handed the old age grant of £30.







A. S. R. S.

16TH FEBRUARY 1912

NEW CROSS

extracted from branch report


Weekly meeting held on the 10th inst.


Death of a member reported, engine cleaner, and unfortunately 17 days short of becoming a free member.


Report given of the unsuccessful attempts to endeavour to arrive at an understanding with the A.S.L.E.&F. to appoint officers for the Loco. Board. L.B.&S.C.



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BATTERSEA

extracted from branch report


The usual meeting held 8th inst.


Correspondence from the Brighton District Council re the old grievances of men having to lose time after reporting fir for duty after illness, especially in the loco department whilst waiting the company's convenience in arranging medical examination and eyesight test. Particulars of several cases sent on in the hope that the L.B.&S.C. will put a stop to this.







LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

Meetings held during mid-late February I closed my last report with some remarks re the opening of Peckham Branch for Motormen, and I now wish to say that this branch is already justifying it’s existence, and if the Motormen will only band themselves together in this their own union, there is every hope that they may in the near future level themselves up to what s paid to their fellow Motormen in the London Tubes. I’m pleased to learn that many of the latter realise, that if something is not done in the near future they will have to come down to the Brighton motormen’s conditions, which are, to say the least, far below what they ought to be. I find there is a ready response by the London Tube motormen to assist their fellows on the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, and not only so, but we have it on the best authority that the London and South-Eastern Railway Company is about to electrify its local service, and the footplatemen on that railway will be well advised to be up and doing in regard to this matter, not forgetting that to be forewarned is to be forearmed. The London, Brighton and South Coast locomotive-men were to some extent caught napping when the company opened its electric portion, and that, with the two societies question, so weakened the men's standing, that after a short skirmish with the general manager for the right of the locomotive-men to fill these positions, and the question of  reasonable wages for the responsibility the work entailed, they had to retire without gaining anything,  consequently there has been dissatisfaction ever since.The following Wednesday I again visited Peckham on branch matters. 

The following week I visited Brighton re the ridiculous position of the locomotive-men 
on that company's line who are in a deadlock on the Conciliation Board. I have been 
attending to this matter on a few occasions since, and at the time of writing have got as 
far as issuing petition forms for a re-election under certain clauses in the new Conciliation Agreement as a result of the Royal Commission, and it only remains to be seen what steps the men will take to free themselves from the position as mentioned above. In my next I hope to be able to report progress.

* Locomotive Journal
April 1912






PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 

 BOGNOR FEBRUARY 1912

Atlantic Class H1 locomotive decorated in bunting, flags and the royal coat of arms to commemorate the return of King George V and Queen Mary from India after coronation ceremonies






A. S. R. S.

23RD FEBRUARY 1912

NEW CROSS

extracted from branch report


Weekly meeting held on 17th inst., with a crowded attendance.


Two claims for suspension dealt with.


Report given of last meeting of London District council. L.B.&S.C. Loco. Conciliation Board deadlock regretted. What's the next move? 







PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 

SELHURST A.C. SHEDS




THE THIRD SECTION OF ELECTRIFICATION 

PECKHAM RYE TO TULSE HILL

The third and last section of the Elevated Electric opened under auspices of the L.B.S.C.R., was from Peckham Rye to Tulles Hill which included links from Tulles Hill to Streatham Hill and to West Norwood. This enabled two electric services to be run, namely, London Bridge to Victoria, via Tulles Hill, and London Bridge to Crystal Palace.

In view of the coal strike that started on Friday 1st March 1912. Electric train began working on this section on Sunday 3rd March 1912, so as to conserve locomotive coal. 

The full electric service begun on Monday 3rd June 1912. 





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

I am sorry this report must of necessity be shorter than usual as the fiend influenza has 
had me in its grip, and has not yet quite release its hold. I am sorry I cannot go as far as I should like re the London, Brighton, and South Coast Railway locomotive-men and their dead-lock on the conciliation board; however, progress is the order of the day, as it has been decided to have a re-election, and it remains to be seen what the men will do now they have their hands free from other grades, and will be able to decide the matter as locomotive-men. Several attempts have been made to draw the red! herring, of working together, across the path, but at present the position is four and four. If the men will be true to themselves and their society in there-election it ought to be six to two at least. If it should be so, the dead-lock will be removed, but what difference that will make to working together I cannot understand, unless, it is to be a  question of society rather than the uplifting of the men. Surely we have, as an intelligent body of men, got a stage further than; that. However, it remains to be seen what will be the result, as the re-election has not yet taken place, only a conference or two held for the purpose of preparing a suitable programme for presentation, when the opportune time arrives.

On the Saturday (2nd March) and Sunday (3rd), I attended two meetings at Brighton.
On the Sunday (10th) I attended an open meeting at Horsham which was very successful from an attendance point of view, and I hope will prove beneficial all round.

* Locomotive Journal
May 1912






 LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL

PORTSMOUTH BRANCH

At our branch meeting held on Sunday, March 3rd, after getting through our usual branch business, we listened to a most interesting address by Councillor Mactivish. He was appointed as a delegate from the Trades Council, to try and persuade our members to affiliate with that body and should have attended our meeting on February 4th, but owing to ill-health he was unable to do so. He, however, sent two very able substitutes in the persons of Mr. Craig and Mr. Porter, with the result that it was decided to affiliate, whereupon delegates were elected to attend the meetings. Councillor Mactivish in his address dealt with the economic conditions of the workers of today showing how they could help themselves to fight against the encroachments of the capitalist by using the co-operative movement and trade union organizations in a political sense. He quoted figures obtained from the Economist and Board of Trade reports which showed that profits had increased, while owing to the increased cost of the necessaries of life, the ages of the workers have decreased. He spoke very strongly about non-union men and said they were the tools of the employers by which wages were kept down, though at the same time they were quite eager to take advantage of any benefits got by the unions. He pleaded with them to be men and join their respective societies when they would be doing their share towards he uplifting of the workers. He spoke upwards of 40 minutes and at the close announced that he would be pleased to answer any questions on the State Insurance Bill and urged them to make their trade union their approved society. He showed that through their organizations the Act could be further amended as our representatives had succeeded in getting amendments added during the passage of the Bill through the House of Commons. He also said that we as locomotive-men, with a high standard of health, would have a large surplus at our disposal when the valuation took place in three years' time. A question was asked in reference t o the miners' minimum wage which Councillor Mactivish explained and also the conditions under which the miner works. Brother J. Brown, chairman, proposed a hearty vote of thanks to the speaker for his most able and interesting address, and after being ably seconded by Brother R. Stone, it was carried unanimously. Councillor Mactivish suitably responded thanking all present for the kind attention that hsd been given to him. Two new members joined as at the close and that these will not be the last is the wish of

ONE OF 'EM. 

* Locomotive Journal
April 1912






ACCIDENT AT WORK 

6th March 1912

Eastbourne fireman H. Morey, Eastbourne engine cleaner Harriot failed to couple two loocomotives together, in Eastborne locomotive shed, so that when one engine was moved it caused the second locomotive to roll away and hit fireman Morey's stationary locomotive. Harriott's carelessness in not coupling the two locomotive together. Shedman Holden could also have been clearer in ensuring that the coupling had been completed.




A. S. R. S.

8TH MARCH 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

The usual meeting on 23rd ult. 

The secretary was instructed to write to Mr. J. Richardson, loco. outdoor superintendent, L.B.&S.C., asking him to grant an interview to two locomen.

Reply from Mr. J. Richardson, loco. outdoor superintendent, L.B.&S.C., arranging to grant interview to two members.


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ON THE BRIGHTON

That the Brighton after dark is becoming a veritable death trap for the staff owing to so many express trains rushing about without headlights on the engines. 





PHOTOGRAPHER UNKOWN

Horsham Loco Shed





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 

HORSHAM BRANCH

SIR,— The above branch held its monthly meeting on March 10th. We had a record attendance, at least that's what some of our oldest members said, and a very good reason why: we had Mr. Warwick, our organizing secretary with us. So we had arranged for an open meeting at 3-30. We got through what branch business we could, and then opened the door to the A.S.R.S. and non members who were waiting to come in.

Brother J. Worcester, who presided, introduced Mr. Warwick, and stated that he had come to explain the Conciliation  Agreement to us, and after a few more suitable remarks he called upon Mr. Warwick to address us, which he did in his usual interesting manner. He also explained to us the position our Sectional Board was in, as regards the deadlock, and the necessity for a re-election of the board. He explained to a certain extent the effects the National Insurance Bill would have upon us as A.S.L.E. & F. members, after which some very interesting questions were asked, and satisfactorily answered. The usual vote of thanks was given, bringing a very enjoyable meeting to a close. I am not able to report any new members at present, but we have hopes of shortly claiming a few of the young fellows as members. The older ones appear to me to be casehardened against trade unionism, and are content to let anyone else fight the battle for their emancipation. 

SECRETARY

* Locomotive Journal
May 1912






A. S. R. S.

15TH MARCH 1912

NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report

Weekly meeting held on the 9th inst., with large attendance.

Decided to again join with A.S.L.E.&F. re meeting of loco. Conciliation Board.




INTRODUCTION OF MOTOR-TRAINS

With the introduction of motor-trains complaints of silent running of these trains, especially when operating trailer car first, gave many permanent way men unpleasant shocks before drivers appreciated the dangers before drivers appreciated the danger and made more frequent use of the whistle. A well-known and most successful poacher was heard to complain over his cups to the station master of Eridge that he was no longer able to take a short cut home along the tracks because of the ghost trains.

Driver Thompson and his Fireman Barreyman of Tunbridge Wells, on the 18th March, 1912 worked loco No. 667 ‘Brixton’, worked up to Oxted with the early morning motor-train. Whilst waiting for a connection from London before returning the driver Thompson decided to take water. Unfortunately none could be obtained from the platform cranes for both were frozen, and resort had to be made to a builder’s hose in the goods yard, which necessitated the uncoupling of the trailer car. When the tanks were full Driver Thompson ran back to the car and told Fireman Barreyman to couple up, but did not inspect the job. On getting the right of way, Thompson set off driving from the end of the trailer car and leaving his fireman in charge of the footplate. All went well until approaching Edenbridge Town, when a brake application was made in vain, for Barreyman had connected the four pipes between the engine and the coach incorrectly. By lucky chance the latter was looking out of the cab and realising from Thompson’s  frantic signals that all was not well shut of steam and applied the hand brake to stop at the platform. It then came to light that Barreyman was a poor reader and mistook the name tabs attached to the motor-train connections.

In due course this came to the ears of authority, who ordered the painting of the various fittings on both engines and trailer cars in distinctive colours to ensure their correct connection pipes by all concerned. Details are: - 

Violet = the regulator pipe, 

Yellow = the storage pipe, 

Blue = pressure pipe and 

Red = the Westinghouse brake pipe.







A. S. R. S.

22ND MARCH 1912

NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report

Weekly meeting held on 16th inst.; full house, and further increase of membership.

Secretary of local branch, A.S.L.E.&F., was present and addressed the meeting. Strong comment re booking locomen off for a week and not allowing free pass; to be sent to grievance committee.





A. S. R. S.

29TH MARCH 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

The usual meeting held on 22nd inst.; over crowded room.

Thirty six men put on lock-out pay. Five granted suspension pay.

Those members who have lockout pay due would the assist the secretary by applying for it at branch meeting early.

Delegates appointed for all grades conferences of L.B.&S.C. and S.E.&C. men to draw up programmes for improved conditions of service.


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PURLEY
extracted from branch report

At our last two meetings we made three new members (two S.E.&C., and one loco., L.B.&S.C.).

Suggested programmes for S.E.&C. men drawn up at the open meeting, adopted, and delegates nominated for the conference on April 4th. 

A number of members of various grades received out-of-work pay for time lost through the coal strike, and several notifications given of members being under notice to "stand off."





A. S. R. S.

5TH APRIL 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

Meeting held 29th ult. 

Fifty members applied for lock-out pay, and were granted the benefit. Several lost part of the benefit owing to not making application in accordance with rule.


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CROYDON
extracted from branch report

The usual weekly meeting was held on Friday last, with a good attendance.

Delegates elected to represent this branch at the all grade conference (shunter, porter and motorman).


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PURLEY
extracted from branch report

Meeting held on the 28th ult.; very good attendance. 

Several members received lock-out benefits in consequence of being stood off and on short time owing to the coal strike.

Delegates nominated for the conference of L.B.&S.C. men to be held on 9th inst.




  LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL

EASTBOURNE BRANCH

On Good Friday (5th April) we held our usual cricket match, super, concert and dance. The cricket match was between the married men and the single, the former showing their superiority by winning. It was followed by a super wholly provided by the members and arranged by the members of a working committee, who had the assistance of their wives. The concert was a great success, E. Levett, Potter, Watson, Wilson, W. Sellwood, Jeffery, H. Marshall, G. Major, H. Rogers and A. Marshall contributing songs. Brother F. Taylor gave selections with his gramophone, and during the evening Brother H. Rogers, on behalf of the members, presented Brother G. Major with a walking stick, suitably engraved, on his enforced retirement, caused by the eyesight. Brother Major, in responding, thanked the members for the present. We had the pleasure of meeting Brother R. Niner and other members from the St. Leonards Branch, and a very enjoyable day was brought to close at 1.0 a.m.

*Locomotive Journal
June 1912






A. S. R. S.

12TH APRIL 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

A good meeting held on Good Friday with a good attendance.

Numerous applications for lock-out pay dealt with. Several cases of suspension and one case of dismissal reported upon by branch committee and the committees report adopted. 



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HORSHAM
extracted from branch report

Meeting held on 7th inst., when a good muster turned up.

Delegate to Conciliation Board was present, and was instructed how to act at the meeting on the 9th.

Secretary informed members Bro. Harnott had applied for old age grant, and he had received the same from General Office, £20.


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L.B. & S.C. LOCOMEN

Great dissatisfaction is being felt at Battersea loco., owing to the irregular way the  work is being allocated at present. About 25 to 30 pairs of men are being booked off duty each week owing to reduction of train service through the coal strike, but during the past week those remaining at work have been compelled to work from 14 to 20 hours per day, this especially so on the 4th inst. Surely one of the vast army of officials there is one of them capable of arranging the work better than this.






A. S. R. S.

19TH APRIL 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

The usual meeting held on 12th inst.

The secretary was given instructions to write to the chairman of the L.B.&S.C., L.&S., and S.E.&C., sending a copy of the following resolution, also to ask all branches to take action in the matter. Resolved:

"That this branch is of the opinion that, as the coal strike is ended and coal can now be obtained, there is no justification for keeping men on short time, causing misery and distress. We, therefore, ask that all men be at once reinstated at full rate of pay."  







PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 

SELSEY RAILWAY WORKERS





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

Meetings held during April.

I also visited our Battersea Branch in connection with matters affecting the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway locomotive-men, more especially as applicable to their re-election of a new conciliation board.

The following day I visited our Peckham Branch on practically the same business, with just this difference, that our Peckham Branch consists of motor-men, whom the company is endeavouring to muddle up in a board consisting of all grades concerned in the working of the electrified portion of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. These motor-men 
contend that their place is with the footplate-men and are seeking to be grouped with them for purposes of conciliation board business, and I think footplate-men throughout the country will say they are right and be prepared to uphold them as far as possible in the matter. However, the general manager seems to think otherwise, and to us, as practical men, the reason is not far to seek. If I judge the motor-men aright, they are determined to leave no stone unturned in their efforts to be allowed to join hands with their natural allies—the footplate-men ; it will, possibly, be a question for the Board of Trade to decide, and in the meantime it should be impressed upon that department, as clearly and forcibly as possible, that Motormen, for the purpose of dealing with conditions of service, are to all intents and purposes in the same position as the men on our locomotives, and to attempt to muddle them up with other grades will prove about as easy a task as mixing oil with water. 

Most of us know that if you place these ingredients together and stir briskly, they appear to mix, but the moment you leave off stirring you are convinced the labour has been all in vain. General managers and other officials may think that when they have issued certain instructions and notices they have succeeded in jumbling up motor-men, or footplate-men, with other grades, but a greater mistake was never made, because directly hours and wages and conditions of service come to be dealt with our men rise to the top and demand to be dealt with separate and distinct. It cannot be too clearly pointed out to the Board of Trade and all concerned, that if they wish the unrest in the railway world to cease, this is one of the things they must accede to, viz., that Motormen and footplate-men are one and that they must be allowed to deal with all matters affecting them from a sectional standpoint.

And now let me say—in case some of our friends may read something into this which is not there, or in the mind of the writer—that the above does not make the slightest difference as far as any agreement which may hereafter be come to in regard to federation ; in fact that is why we refused to go further than federation, simply because we intend to keep the management of our own affairs in our own hands.

* Locomotive Journal
June 1912





A. S. R. S.

26TH APRIL 1912

THREE BRIDGES

A special open meeting was held on Sunday under the auspices of the Brighton District council. There was a splendid muster of members, and also a good number of nons. Stirring addresses were given by Bros. T. Pargeter, A. Gill, and C. Allison, and a hearty vote of thanks was accorded the speakers. Several nos took entrance forms, and we hope the meeting will be the means of increasing the membership of the branch. 

Owing to special meeting the ordinary meeting was postponed until 28th inst.



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L. B. & S. C. COAL

At the first sign of trouble with the miners a circular was at once issued to stations that fires were to be discontinues at once. Whether this was meant to include those men on night duty in cabins, etc., or whether petty officialism was responsible for these men being included, we are unable to say, but we do know that those gentlemen who see this order carried out saw to it that their own fires were burning brightly. What the men are now asking is when is this order to be withdrawn, seeing the strike is over and plenty of coal in store stations Is it not most unreasonable to expect men to work on through the night with no fire, with the temperature several degrees below freezing point? The men feel they are the victims of mad craze for economy.


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BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

The usual meeting held 19th inst. 

Letter from Mr. J.J. Brewer, secretary L.B.&S.C., replying on behalf of Earl Bessborough to the letter conveying copy of resolution re men kept on short time still.

The question of unjust punishment, L.B.&S.C., again to the fore, and information that the grievance committee were having an interview caused other matters to be sent on to the committee.






POSTCARD








A. S. R. S.

3RD MAY 1912

NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report

The monthly meeting was held on the 28th ult., with a very good attendance.

A number of applications being sent in for out-of-work pay owing to coal strike, the branch committee was summoned to take the matter, also the correspondence from the H.O., into consideration, and they decided to recommend the branch to pay the odd days to all those members that night who had not been paid, and last week's claims should be paid next Saturday, the H.O. to be applied to for same to be refunded to branch a resolution being passed that the action and recommendation of the committee be endorsed. 






LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

The following day (6th May) I visited Battersea, to make inquiries re one of our members who had unfortunately got into the hands of the police. Our secretary, together with our old esteemed friend Bliss, had done all that could be done on his behalf, and the case was adjourned for a week.

I attended the police court, together with Mr. Tippetts, our solicitor, and the above mentioned, but I am sorry to say there was no defence other than the man's previous good character, which did not, in my opinion, count for much with his worship. In my opinion the above could have been dealt with under the First Offenders' Act, because I feel sure the disgrace of the police court proceedings, together with the loss of his situation, would have been sufficient punishment, instead of which it was " two 
months' hard.”

The next day (May 7th) I visited our Peckham Branch again in connection with matters mentioned above, but am sorry I cannot report much progress, because the “ powers that be “ seem to have made their minds up that Motormen shall be kept separate and distinct from the footplatemen

* Locomotive Journal
June 1912









GETTING A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING!!


A minor incident involving Driver O’Corner and his engine No.157 ‘ Barcelona, ‘ on the 11th May, 1912. Whilst Driver O’Corner was shunting coal wagons near Eastbourne loco shed and he mistook the signals, just as C2X No.541 was entering the yard from the main line. The collision was violent and all men were injured, but the actual damage was surprisingly light to both engines.  






A. S. R. S.

17TH MAY 1912

CROYDON
extracted from branch report

The usual weekly meeting was held on Friday last, with a very large attendance.
 
A large number of names having been obtained for a new branch at Epsom, it has been decided to open a branch at that centre next month. Look out for date and place of meeting.


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NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report

Meeting held on 11th inst. a great success.

Next meeting is monthly night, 19th inst., at 7 p.m. prompt. Locomen are particularly requested to be in attendance. Important matter. 





ACCIDENT AND DISABLEMENT

23rd May 1912

Battersea engine driver J. Stephens accident 23rd May 1912, aged 47. Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 14th October 1898





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

On the 24th May, I attended two meetings of our West Brompton Branch, at which the men were discussing their position re the Conciliation board, the manager having suggested two boards for the whole of the employees, which mean the Motormen being tacked on to four other grades, thus placing them in the position of the old Central Board - which the Royal Commission decided must go. These are District Railwaymen, and what I have said re the Brighton Motormen above, applies in this case, but we must “ wait and see” what the result of the men’s application for a Sectional Board will be. 

* Locomotive Journal
June 1912






A. S. R. S.

31ST MAY 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

The usual meeting held 24th inst. 

Correspondence from Brighton District Council re proposed new branch at Dorking.

A vote of sympathy was accorded Bro. J. Stevens and his wife, our brother having met with an accident by falling from his engine, necessitating amputation of his foot.


*Redhill ASRS Branch, 15th November, 1912, 
reports that it is hoped that a Dorking branch of the A.S.RS. will be opening soon






A. S. R. S.

7TH JUNE 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

The Usual meeting held 31st ult.,  with business at high pressure. 

Animated discussion on question of nominations representatives of L.B.&S.C. Loco. Conciliation Board, members generally being of the opinion the new election was unnecessary, and was responsible for great delay in getting to work on the new scheme. 





DEATH IN SERVICE

10th June 1912

Horsham engine driver J. Harnott died in service on the 10 June 1912, aged 60. Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 10th January 1892

The Horsham Branch regret to record the death of Bro. R. Harnott, which took place on the 10th inst. of Bright's disease. Our late brother retired on reaching 60, and received old age pension on April 6th, but has been ill ever since.





A. S. R. S.

14TH JUNE 1912

THE ASSOCIATED SOCIETY

MR. A. FOX AND AMALGAMATION

Speaking at a large meeting of locomotive men on Sunday last, following upon the conference of the A.S.L.E.&F. at Leeds, Mr. Albert fox (secretary of the Locomotive Society), referring to unsuccessful attempt to bring about an amalgamation of all railway workers, said: 

"Some people have been trying to kick me out, but they don't know what they are kicking against. Some people have been trying to 'amalgamate' me. -- (A voice: "They'll have a job.") Yes, they will. You can't 'amalgamate' me with a lot of men who have a lot of swank about them. I do claim our right to independence, and I am going to persist in my claim" 

That society, he proceeded, showed an increased membership of 4,000, and he hoped it would soon increase by as many more. He asked for continuous loyal support in the future, coupled with as much criticism as they liked, but with no fault finding. They must do something to prevent the railway companies from working them to death. They wanted shorter hours and a shorter mileage, or better pay for less mileage than now. He was not one of those who would advise a working man to fight in order to see whether he or the millionaire could stand the starving process the longer. He did not believe it was better to fight and lose than not to fight at all. "Away with such rot," he said; "it is better to wait until you are ready, and then fight to win." -- (Applause.) -- He claimed he was doing his best to organise his own calling and that there should not be a single straw placed in his way by any other union. While the Associated Society was always prepared to welcome the assistance of every other Trade Union, they could not allow any outside interference.


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ON THE BRIGHTON

That the unrest in the locomotive department of the L.B.&S.C. has extended to the outdoor superintendent's department; the inspectors and clerks are kicking against the treatment received, especially the long hours, overtime, and Sunday work, without pay. 

Do not these men come under the Conciliation boards?

Why not unite?



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A BRIGHTON OFFER

A circular has been issued from the secretary's office of the L.B.&S.C. from which we gather that the company is making an issue of additional capital, and is giving the men on the weekly pay sheet an opportunity of becoming owners of stock by purchase. 

The first instalment of £66 upon each £100 is due in July, and the second instalment of £44 in January next. The holding is limited to one share. We are assured that the offer of the company he's met with considerable enthusiasm among the railwaymen Syndicalist of Bermondsey; here, at last, is an opportunity for the Brighton men to own the Brighton Railway! 

Now that the men have an opportunity of becoming their own masters and working for their own dividends, it is said that the working pace of the Willow Walkers has increased one mile per hour. Our representative, who has been making inquiries concerning the effect of the offer on money market, reports that there is a considerable flutter in Jewish international financial circles, and that there was excitement in Petticoat Lane and the New Cut on Sunday morning, the withdrawal of the heavy spending power of thousands of Brighton railwaymen causing a serve drop in prices. 

A number of porters, checkers, and shelters whose wages of 22s. per week allow a handsome margin for a little dabble in the stock market, very much regret the decision of the directors to confine the issue to one share per man, and trust that this unexampled offer of the directors will be extended in due time to enable them to possess a double holding. 





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

I concluded my last report with some reference to the position of the Motormen on the District and London, Brighton and South Coast Railways re their position under the new conciliation scheme, In both instances the Motormen mentioned above were to be jumbled up with some of the other grades. I am pleased to be able to report now that District men have been able to extricate themselves, and after an appeal to the manager and a vote of the men it has been decided the motormen shall have a sectional board by and through which they can deal with their hours and wages and conditions of service. With the London, Brighton and South Coast Motormen I am sorry to say it is otherwise, the general manager having so far refused to listen to their appeal to be grouped with the footplate-men, with the result that the motormen have appeared before the officials in an application for improved conditions of service, muddled up with passenger guards, signalmen, goods guards, goods shunters, parcels checkers, ticket collectors, &c. I understand each grade laid their case before the officials, when the usual stereotyped reply was given, viz., how much the company had already given in improving the conditions of certain sections, and what the conditions then asked for by the various grades would cost, also the extra cost of coal, cost of Insurance Bill extra cost of material on account of high price of coal, &c, &c.; and then the deputation was told they would receive the decision in due course.

Now the position is as follows: If the decision of the " powers that be " is not satisfactory, and the matter goes to conciliation, the Motormen are in the position of not having a representative on that board, and consequently will have to leave their interests to be looked after by some of the grades mentioned above; and while we are prepared to give the passenger guard, signalman, ticket collector, &c, credit for being wishful to assist the motormen, yet we must realize that, being unable to enter into the worries and responsibilities peculiar to that grade, it is practically impossible for them to represent the same: hence, 
as mentioned in last Journal, if the officials of the Board of Trade are anxious that the unrest should cease, one of their first duties is to allow the motormen to be grouped with their own class, the footplate-men.

My next move was to New Cross, re our men refusing to " blackleg" by working trains of that class to the docks. The question of sympathetic strikes is a large and serious one for us as a body seeing that nothing can occur anywhere in connection with the trade and commerce of the country without our men being affected.

I then spent nine days at the Conference, and on returning visited Fulham in the morning and an open meeting at Covent Garden in the evening, and the following day (Sunday 16th June) I left for Newhaven, with the view to open a branch of our Society there. This is rather a small depot on the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, but quite large enough to maintain a branch. I did the needful by way of visiting, bills, &c., and on the Sunday a few friends from Brighton with Brother Marshall, from Eastbourne, came over to lend a hand, with the result that a branch was opened and arrangements made for the future.

* Locomotive Journal
August 1912




PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN

Seaford Station







THE OPENING OF 

THE NEWHAVEN BRANCH OF A.S.L.E. & F.

On the 16th June, 1912, a delegation of ASLEF members from the Brighton Branch which include Bros. Thomas W. Hatcher (Branch Chairman), Jack Enves (Branch Secretary), F. Smith, Jason Smith, Harry Funnell, F. Wilson, Freddie Queen, Albert Pope, G. Thomas, Thomas Leaney, Thomas Burtenshaw and Fred Christmas accompanied Mr W. Warwick, ASLEF District Organiser and travelled the short distance to Newhaven, with the intention to encourage the loco-men at Newhaven into forming their own Branch of A.S.L.E.F. The delegation was also accompanied by Bros A. E. Marshall from Eastbourne Branch and Albert (A.E.) Harrison from Battersea Branch (Branch Secretary). A special meeting was arranged to be held at the Co-operative Hall with several Newhaven loco-men in attendance. 





PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 

Newhaven Loco Shed




 Newhaven Special Open Meeting 

held at the Co-Operation Hall 

on

Sunday June 16th 1912 at 3.0 p.m.

Chairman Bro T. Hatcher, Mr W. Warwick, A.S.L.E.F. District Organiser A.E. Harrison from Battersea Branch, Bros A.E. Marshall from Eastbourne Branch and  Brighton Branch members  Bros. T.W. Hatcher (Branch Chairman), J. Enves (Branch Secretary), F. Smith, J. Smith, H. Funnell, F. Wilson, F. Queen, A. Pope, G. Thomas, T. Leaney, T. Burtenshaw and F. Christmas, and several Newhaven men.

Bro Jack Enves in a few remarks stated that an effort was made twelve months ago to open a branch at Newhaven but it was not successful.  As it was understood that several of the Newhaven men were now unanimous to join our ‘Society’ the present meeting was called to enable the loco-men to form a branch of the ‘Associated Society’ or join a convenient branch. It was pointed out that we had branches at all the depots in the Southern District namely St Leonards, Eastbourne, Brighton & Fratton, and the men of Bognor, Midhurst and Littlehampton with exceptions were members of the Horsham Branch but that see correspondence at each of those depots.

Bro. A.E. Harrison stated that from the experience of his serving the last twelve months in working with the A.S.R.S. he had come to the conclusion that the loco-men cannot get their business satisfactorily endorsed in a branch room consisting of all grades as it is very difficult to get our men together owing to our irregular hours it is best manage our own business by locomotive men only.

Bro. A. Marshall stated that from his experience of the Coastal Depots where loco-men had but two representatives out of eight he was of the opinion that loco-men must manage their own business through their own organisation. He also pleaded with the men at Newhaven to use this influence to get the four ‘Associated’ candidates for the Southern District returned at the forthcoming Conciliation Board elections.

Mr Warwick in a long and interesting address hoped the men at Newhaven would see their way clear to form a branch of our Society. He did not go there to ask them to assist us to form or build up our Society as we were now 24,000 strong with £ 188.000 at our disposal.

We were asking for but 1/- entrance fee when he joined the Society they paid anything up to 10/- and did not know whether the Society would be a success or not. A man joining now practically knew that he was joining a strong and finically sound organisation. 

Bro T. Hatcher thanked the speakers on behalf of the meeting for their remarks and appealed for new members. But hoped they would elect a Chairman and Secretary so could manage their own business.

Seven Newhaven men responded by joining with promises from several men who were unable to attend.

It was agreed to form a Newhaven Branch and to elect Chairman and Secretary.  

Pro. by A. Pearce, Sec. by L. Lower that Fred Wilmshurst, be the Secretary of Newhaven Branch, Carried Unanimously. 

Pro. F. Wilmshurst, Sec. by D. Boyle: - C. Barrow be Chairman of the Newhaven Branch Carried Unanimously.

Pro. by T.W. Hatcher Sec. by H. Funnell:- That the following men be members of the Newhaven Branch, 

C. Barrow, F. Wilmshurst, H.G. Bowden, D. Boyle, E. P. Ettridge, A.H. Pearce & L. Lower. Carried Unanimously.

Pro. by T.W. Hatcher Sec. by J. Smith: - That a vote of thanks be given to Bros. Warwick, Marshall and Harrison for attending also for their interesting addresses. Carried.

Pro. by Bro Warwick, Sec. by F. Smith: - That a vote of thanks be given to Chairman for the able manner he had performed his duties and vice of the opinion that we had a most pleasant meeting. Carried. 

Bro. Harrison endorsed Mr. Warwick remarks and stated that when they opened the Bricklayers Arms Branch about five years ago it was a most disorderly meeting but the Branch is now 150 strong.







LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

As intimated in my last report, a branch of our Society was opened at Newhaven on Sunday, June 16th, but owing to not having books, &c, it was necessary for me to pay another visit in order to instruct our new secretary, and to assist in finding a suitable club room, &c. I attended to this on the Tuesday, 25th, and am pleased to state I had but little difficulty in carrying out the above mentioned duties.

*Locomotive Journal
September 1912





ELIZABETH WICKSTEAD COLLECTION






A. S. R. S.

28TH JUNE 1912

EPSOM


An open meeting was held at the Mission Hall, Epsom, on the 19th inst., with a view of forming a branch of the A.S.R.S., there being a large number of railwaymen present.

Bro. T. Pocock, of Battersea Branch, presided.

Councillor J.H. Dobson led off with a fine address. Bro. Allison, of Croydon, read the dispensation, and declared the branch open. A few words of encouragement and offers of assistance were given by Bro. A. Mann and Bro. Moore, of New Cross, Bro. Payne, of Wimbledon, and Bro. Tidy, of Battersea.

The branch made a start with over 30 members, and there is every prospect of making a large and successful branch.

* Epsom A.S.R.S. Branch represented members from 
both the L.B.&S.C.R. & L.&S.W.R.


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NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report

Meeting on the 22nd inst. was full of enthusiasm; amongst the crowded attendance.

L.B.&S.C. Loco. Conciliation Board election had attention, and members were reminded that the A.S.R.S. candidates for the Northern Section are E. Fisher, W. Mayer, P. Wilmer, and J.D. Willis.

Correspondence from local branch A.S.L.E.&F., and we await further reply. 





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

I returned home on the Monday (1st July), and, during the week, visited our Peckham and Westminster Branches on important business. Peckham Branch is making a heroic attempt to improve the lot of the Motormen on the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, which is far below that of any other Motormen in or around London; but they have an uphill battle, owing largely to the fact that the company can recruit and train men from the lower paid grades - these men being willing to devote the time necessary to learn a Motorman’s duties free of charge. The irony of the whole thing is that our men have to instruct these men, who seem to think that when they stepped into the position of a Motorman, with all its worries and responsibilities, at the magnificent salary of 33/- per week, they will have found an "El Dorado.” However, it is not finished yet, and it remains to be seen where all the cheeseparing will ultimately land those concerned. One thing is certain, it is not doing anything to calm the unrest so much developed, not only by the capitalist, but by the Government itself. These people must know that it is worse than useless to simply go on deploring the unrest, whilst they are doing their utmost to compel men to work year in and year out for less tham a living wage; even where a few SOP have been doled out by the various companies, such as threepence per day to firemen, and a shilling or so per week to cleaners when they reach man’s estate. If anyone is so ignorant, or innocent, as to think such meargre thinks are going to calm unrest they will undoubtedly, in the near future, receive a rude awakening. But to return to the report. 

(July) After returning from March, I attended a delegate meeting of London, Brighton 
and South Coast Railway locomotive-men at Brighton, called for the purpose of  drafting 
a programme. Our National Programme was taken as a basis, and after it was drawn up 
the secretary was instructed as to its presentation. Up to the time of writing this has not 
been carried out, so consequently it remains to be seen how the locomotive-men will 
succeed on that company. Should the deputation fail, the new conciliation board, now in 
course of election, will be ready to take the matter in hand. 

On returning home I was called to Peckham, one of our members having had the misfortune to slightly collide with the stops at London Bridge whilst in charge of an electric train. I took the matter in hand and gave the necessary advice, reporting to General Office, so that we may be prepared for any developments in the case. There has been a few already but as the case is 
somewhat subjudice I will refrain from dealing further with it in this report, but may have something to say in my next. 

*Locomotive Journal
September 1912





DEATH IN SERVICE

3rd July 1912

New Cross engine driver E. Chapman died in service on the 3rd July 1912, aged 47. Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 20th June 1901





A. S. R. S.

5TH JULY 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report.


The usual meeting was held on the 28th inst.

The circular re proposed strike of railwaymen and manifesto issued by individual members, the following resolution was carried with only three against:

"That in reply to circular from H.O. re alleged threatened strike of London Railwaymen through circular issued by Messrs. T. Kirk and C. Dear of West Ham and Stratford, this branch reiterates its confidence in our officials and elected representatives, and emphatically repudiates the action of individual members posing a authoritative leaders of London railwaymen, as we are convinced such methods are detrimental to the best interests of our members, the society, and Trade Unionism generally." 






ACCIDENT AND DISABLEMENT

11th July 1912

Three Bridges engine driver Albert Packham old age 11th July 1912, aged 60. Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 23rd August 1872.





A. S. R. S.

12TH JULY 1912

EPSOM

First ordinary branch meeting held on the 3rd inst. Still going strong with membership increased by five.

We have practically all grades in the district represented, and have formed a branch committee on the departmental system, seven grades being represented, and one vacancy left for a plate layer to be elected at our next meeting.

It was decided to hold future meeting on Fridays fortnightly. Next meeting on the 19th instead., 7.30 p.m., at the Original Coffee and Dining Rooms, High Street, front entrance, which will be our meeting place till further notice.

Resolved that a branch Benevolent Fund be formed; contributions, 6d. per quarter. Seventy five per cent. of the members of this branch have made the A.S.R.S. their approved society. 

There was a good discussion on all matters brought forward, which proves that this will be a live branch, and has come to stay. 

The name and address of the secretary is A.H. Clarke, 33, Middle Lane, Epsom.



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PURLEY
extracted from branch report.


The meeting held 4th inst.

Application to hand for transfers for the proposed new branch at Coulsdon.






Extracted and adapted from

Newhaven A.S.L.E.&F. Branch Meeting

Sunday July 14th 1912

Delegate gave his report of the Conference held at Brighton on July 11th 1912.
Proposed by Bro. C. Barrow & Seconded by Bro. W. Smith.

"That the Secretary write to the Corresponding Secretary disapproving of Eastbourne proposal of having four & four delegates to submit the programme before the Company and they thought it have been better to have had five A.S.L.E.F & three A.S.R.S. Men.”

Carried.

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Newhaven Branch Meeting Sunday July 28th 1912

Letter read from Brighton re 4 & 4 to submit the National Programme, and it was agreed that the Secretary write to Brighton supporting their proposal.

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Newhaven Branch Meeting Sunday August 4th 1912

Letters read from the Brighton branch re Joint action in submitting National Programme, and it was thought the reply was satisfactory.






A. S. R. S.

26TH JULY 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report.


Usual meeting held on 19th inst.

A letter from a member stating that he had left the service of the L.B.&S.C., and therefore retired from the Conciliation Board of which he was a member.

Special open meeting for the loco men's deputation to report was held, and the men passed a resolution upon which their representatives will act. A settlement without going to Conciliation Boards, notwithstanding the disunity caused by those who can only be represented by locomen.






LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL

PORTSMOUTH BRANCH

An open meeting in connection with the above branch was held on Sunday, July 28th, the chair being taken by our E.C. member, Mr. W . Stevenson. Before calling upon Mr. Wride, our worthy President, to give an address, the chairman made a few appropriate remarks. Mr. Wride, who took for his subject Conciliation and Federation, and dealt with it for over an hour in a most masterly fashion, gave a brief outline of the history of the A.S.L.E.&F. from its conception  and also of the A.S.R.S., which evidently convinced those present that they would" be doing well by looking after their own business, and leave others to do likewise. Mr. W. Stevenson then gave a brief outline of the terms of service enjoyed by the South Eastern and Chatham Railway men, and also particulars of recent concessions granted to the locomotive-men. On the call for questions, of which a few were asked, one referred to the old sore, Rule 30, Clause 5, which still rankles in the minds of a few, and is used as an excuse for running out. Perhaps these members are more to be pitied than anything else. 

Another questioner wanted to know if it was true that we are losing members, a' tale which has emanated from some of our A.S.R.S. friends a t another place a few miles away, with what object I will leave yon to guess. This was answered by Mr. G. Wride, who referred to the new branches that have recently been opened. One always expects to find a few weak-kneed ones, who, when an open meeting is held to clear up their doubts, are most conspicuous by their absence. The following resolution was carried unanimously : " That this meeting of enginemen, firemen and cleaners is of opinion that the time has now arrived when the enginemen of this country should approach the various railway companies for a re- consideration of the conditions of service, with a view of improving the same, exclusively under the auspices of their own Society, the A.S.L.E. & F." A vote of thanks was then proposed to our visitors, Messrs. Wride and Stevenson, for their services, which were greatly appreciated. This was the occasion of their first visit to this branch, and that next time they come we shall have a much larger audience is the wish of

A POMPONIAN

*Locomotive Journal 
September 1912





ACCIDENT AND DISABLEMENT

28th July 1912


Brighton No.1 engine driver C.W. Crossthwaite old age 28th July 1911, aged 60. Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 22nd April 1883

 




ELIZABETH WICKSTEAD COLLECTION




LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report


After returning from Lowestoft, as per my last notes, I was called to attend a Board of 

Trade inquiry at Brighton. In this case a foreman shunter, while walking up the yard in 

front of an engine and empty coaches, of which he was in charge, got so close to the rail 

that the engine pushed him down, causing slight injury. Our members were not held 

responsible or in any way to blame. 

From Ipswich I travelled to Brighton, to attend a delegate meeting at which final 

arrangements were made for presenting their Programme, and by the time this appears I 

expect something will be known as to whether the delegates will be able to settle or 

whether the Conciliation Board will be called in to deal with the matter. A re-election of 

the above has lately taken place, and the position has been improved from a deadlock of 

four from each Society to six A.S.L.E. & F. and two A.S.R.S. The Brighton locomotive-

men have hitherto held a favourable position with regard to conditions of service, but 

have of late been left somewhat behind by other companies' men, who have already 

made use of the new machinery set up for the purpose of dealing with hours and wages 

and conditions of service. However, the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway men 

have now again put their hand to the plough and do not intend to look back until they 

have fetched up the leeway.


*Locomotive Journal

October 1912







A. S. R. S.

9TH AUGUST 1912

EPSOM
extracted from branch report.


Meeting held on the 2nd inst.: good attendance.

Bro. Wilmer, vice chairman, reported he was dismissed from the service of the L.B.&S.C. on 24th ult., but had not been able to obtain his insurance card from them, although he had applied each days for it. He made application for it at 7.20 p.m. on the 2nd inst. for the eight time, and was informed by the stationmaster that it had not arrived yet. As this is a very serious matter for our member the meeting decided that H.O. be at once informed by express letter. Our member obtained fresh employment on the 27th ult., informing his present employer that he would produce insurance card within a week, but is unable produce insurance card within a week, but is unable to do so, and, therefore, cannot be paid his wages and may again lose his employment owing to detention of his property of the L.B.&S.C. Company on 25th ult., and received all wages due to him, 8d. being dedicated for two weeks' contributions to national insurance. The original report that was handed to Bro. Wilmer was before the meeting. We are wondering if our member has been victimised as he was told that if this had not happened he would not have been in the service another week. 

We hope to gather some more information before our next meeting 16th inst. 






A. S. R. S.

16TH JULY 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report 

Usual meeting held on the 9th inst.

A letter from Head Office giving the information sought re the L.B.&S.C. locomen's programme and joint action with A.S.L.E.&F. A resolution was carried that the letter was satisfactory so far as giving the information sought. No further action taken, and unless the rank and file get a move on there is no hope of improvement. Perhaps the young men will at once see that every branch helps to get the move on by demanding that the delegates launch their programme for signatures, and then present it to the company. 



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LONDON, BRIGHTON, AND SOUTH COAST

These candidates have been duly returned on behalf of the employees as members of the Conciliation Board for the locomotive department of the London, Brighton, and South Coast  Railway.


LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT SECTIONAL BOARD

NORTHERN DISTRICT


NAME
G.R. Pullen, 
J. Cordrey, 
W. Mayer,
E. Fisher,
A.E. Harrison,
J.F. Brett,
J.D. Willis,
GRADE
Engine Driver
Engine Driver
Engine Driver 
Fireman
Fireman
Fireman
Fireman
DEPOT
New Cross (ASLEF)
Battersea (ASLEF)
New Cross (ASRS)
New Cross (ASRS)
Battersea  (ASLEF)
Tun. Wells (ASLEF)
New Cross (ASRS)
VOTES
232 (elected)
214 (elected)
202 (elected)
175 (elected)
173
153
140

NUMBER OF SPOILT VOTING PAPERS 15




SOUTHERN DISTRICT


NAME

J. Enves,
P. Wright,
F. Smith,
A.J. Marshall,
A. Gill,
J.W. Packham
J. Browning,
F. Young,

GRADE

Engine Driver
Engine Driver
Engine Driver 
Fireman
Engine Driver
Engine Driver
Engine Driver
Engine Driver

DEPOT

Brighton (ASLEF)
Portsmouth (ASLEF)
Brighton (ASLEF)
Eastbourne (ASLEF)
Brighton (ASRS)
Eastbourne (ASRS)
Newhaven  (ASRS)
Fratton (ASRS)

VOTES

223 (elected)
220 (elected)
213 (elected)
210 (elected)
114
114
105
  93


NUMBER OF SPOILT VOTING PAPERS 8







PECKHAM RYE DEPOT OUTING



PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN  

London Brighton & South Coast Railway Elevated Electric 

1st Outing to Arundel on Sunday 18th August 1912.





ACCIDENT AT WORK 

31st August 1912

Brighton engine driver Joseph May (aged 55) whilst oiling his engine's motion at Brighton, when fireman Alfred Turner moved the engine, injuring him between the connection rod balance weight and the eccentrig straps. Turner admitted he was responsible by disregarding the instruction to let the drive know of movement.  




ACCIDENT AT WORK 

9th September 1912

Eastbourne fireman John William Spencer Jeffery (aged 31) whilst trimming coal on bunker of his engine whilst it was moved after coaling, he was caught by the loading gauge and knocked to the ground. On previous moved he had stooped to avoid the loading gauge. The main cause of  the accident laid with Jeffery who ignored the instruction by remaining on the bunker while the was in motion and was also aware of the loading gauge. Engine driver G. Lawrence also to blame by moving his engine whilst Jeffery was on the bunker.







A. S. R. S.

13TH SEPTEMBER 1912

THREE BRIDGES
extracted from branch report

Ordinary meeting 8th inst.

During the evening we had the pleasure of handing cheque for £30 to Bro. Albert Packham, who retired after 45 years' of active service. He joined the society in 1872. Bros. Bishop and Bevington voiced the congratulations of the branch, and Bro. Packham briefly responded.


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LONDON, BRIGHTON, AND SOUTH COAST

PASSENGER TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT SETTLEMENT
extracted from settlement 

In accordance with Clause 2 of the Conciliation Scheme the company received on the 1st and 4th July, 1912, the deputation representing the staff including in the traffic department Conciliation Board, who attend to discuss the petition submitted under date of June 19th, 1912.

after full discussion, the company in due course offered to concede the following improved conditions of service:-


MOTORMEN



WAGES SCALE



1st year, 31s. per week
2nd year, 33s. per week
3rd year, 35s. per week
4th year, 36s. per week
5th year, 37s. per week
6th year, 38s. per week



HOURS

One hour relief each day for a meal after four or five hours' duty.






ACCIDENT AND DISABLEMENT

19th September 1912

Battersea engine driver James Cook old age 12th September 1912, aged 60. Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 8th May 1874





Eastbourne Fireman

Thomas Frederick Charles Page 

Known as Charlie Page

Seniority Date 20th September 1912





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


Extracted and adapted from 


A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report



L.B.& S.C.R. CONCILIATION BOARD

In September, attended at New Cross to meet the newly-elected London, Brighton and South Coast Locomotive Conciliation Board, for the purpose of electing its officers.

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SIR, - Will you please insert in the Journal for the information of our members that at the meeting of the Conciliation Board of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, Mr. A. Fox, General Secretary, was elected secretary of the board.

A. HARRISON    

BATTERSEA BRANCH

*Locomotive Journal

November 1912

 




A. S. R. S.

18TH OCTOBER 1912

NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report

Weekly meeting held 12th inst.

During the evening the chairman, on behalf of the branch, presented an umbrella, suitably engraved, to our old member, Bro. Graham, in recognition of his services during his many years' membership of our society. 





 
 PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 




In October 1912 before the review of terms of service for Enginemen, Firemen and Cleaners was published in a memorandum, responding to the proposals for revision by representatives of their grades and discussed by deputations with the Locomotive Engineer by direct negotiations, and not under the conciliation scheme. It was agreed the terms set by the Board be accepted by members of all the grades in full settlement of the whole of their demands, with the reservation that the Locomotive Engineer was instructed to enquire into and report upon the result to certain cleaners, of the system of payment by piecework, compared to payment at daily rates.

In December at a meeting with engine cleaners, Billinton reported that he could not recommend any alteration beyond that sanctioned in the above mentioned minute. This rate was made uniform across the whole system.





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL


Extracted and adapted from 

A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

On arriving on Monday morning I found awaiting me a request to attend a delegate meeting of London, Brighton & South Coast Railway locomotivemen, at Brighton, I attended to this and found these men had been successful in obtaining some slight improvements in their conditions of service at the hands of the directors, but there was still one or two matters left over to be dealt with by and through the locomotive superintendent. Various matters were discussed and arrangements made for future action with an open door.

On the Sunday I attended a meetings of our New Cross Branch, called for the-purpose of discussing and clearing up some misunderstandings that had crept in and were making themselves felt in the shape of a few backsliders. I am pleased to say that after some straight and plain talk, what had appeared as mountains, became simple molehills, and in the end most of those present determined to again stand to their guns and do what they could to build up their own Society.

* Locomotive Journal
January 1913




Extracted and adapted from 

Newhaven Branch Meeting

Sunday October 20th 1912


Letters read from Brighton & Battersea, re better Conditions for Loco-men. 

3 days Holidays with pay each year, 10 per cent drivers making 20 per cent to receive.

Drivers when Fireman to receive 5/- a day. First year Driving 6/-, 2nd 6/6.

Passed Fireman when in the Shed to receive 3/3 per day. First year firing 3/9 2nd 4/-, 4th 4/3, 
an additional 10 per cent making 20 per cent to receive 4/9 per day.

Increases in pay to start from Friday Sept. 27 from, Holiday from Oct 1st 1912.

Bro. L. Lower proposed & Bro. A. Pearce Seconded. 

"That this branch express their obligation for their able manner in which they brought about such a successful settlement and think that we should not have gain any more through the Conciliation Board.”

Bro. W. Smith proposed & Bro. H. Bowden seconded as an amendment. 

"That was not satisfied with settlement and thought it ought to have gone to the Conciliation Board as he thought we should have got a weeks holiday and 4/9 for all fireman."






A. S. R. S.

25TH OCTOBER 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

The usual meeting was held on 18th inst.

Replies received from L.B.&S.C. re bad signals and want of lobby for enginemen were read and considered satisfactory. It was agreed the matters now stand adjourned to see what action, if any, was taken to rectify these grievances.



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CROYDON
extracted from branch report

The usual weekly meeting was held on Friday last, with a very good attendance. 

Complaints were made at the lights in the Electric Yard at Norwood Junction not being put into use till late at night or early in the morning. Secretary instructed on the matter.




ACCIDENT AND DISABLEMENT

28th October 1912

Battersea No.1 engine driver W.J. Hunt old age 28th October 1912, aged 61. Joined the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants, on the 2nd December 1897





PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 

West Croydon 

5th November 1912






A. S. R. S.

8TH NOVEMBER 1912

NEWHAVEN
extracted from branch report

Usual meeting was held on Sunday with a good attendance.

The members appreciated the action of the superintendent of the line in the case of Bro. A. Bryant, who has lost an arm through accident.

Letter from out door locomotive superintendent considered re Bro. Kingswood.




LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


WEST CROYDON BRANCH


On November 10th two open meetings were held at the Bridge Inn, West Croydon, the club-room of this branch. Brothers J. Cordrey and A. E. Harrison gave a full report of the interviews with our locomotive engineer, Mr. L. Billinton, and the board of directors of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. 

The attendance at the first meeting, which commenced at 12.30 p.m., was not as large as we expected, but those locomotive-men' who did attend were greatly interested in the reports given by both of the delegates, while their appreciation was signified by passing a vote of thanks to the delegates, with which was coupled an invitation for them to attend West Croydon Branch at some future date. A very interesting fact in connection with this meeting was that we had a member of the A.S.R.S. as chairman.

The attendance at the evening meeting showed a great improvement upon the earlier one, many locomotive-men coming over from Epsom in order to hear at first hand of the concessions which had been granted to the footplate workers on this line. 

At this meeting several grievances were discussed, when the general opinion seemed to be that if the complaint was made in the proper quarter these grievances would soon be rectified. Both delegates repeated their report, which was satisfactorily received, after which several questions were asked, all of which were answered to the gratification of our members. After this was finished there was only just time to propose a vote of -thanks, which was carried unanimously, to Brothers Cordrew and Harrison for i:heir attendance and their lucid explanations of the concessions.

Having held a special meeting to discuss the making of a presentation to our delegate, Brother P. Wright, London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, it was resolved to invite Brother A. Harrison, who was chairman of the deputation, to take the chair at an open meeting to be held at the Co-operative Hall, Gamier St., Fratton, on Sunday, November 17th, for this purpose. It was also proposed and carried that we invite Brother J. Cordrey, another of the delegates, to attend and give an address. The meeting eventually took place at the arranged time, when our chairman, in his opening remarks, thanked the members of the Portsmouth Branch for the invitation which they had given him for the second time in two years, and said it gave him pleasure to be amongst those once more with whom he had spent his cleaning days, but more so because since his last visit as their chairman he was informed they had seen proper to organize themselves nearly to a man, therefore encouraging those who were elected to represent them before the chief engineer and board of directors. The chairman addressed the meeting for 30 minutes, after which he called upon Brother J. Cordrey to give a full report of the meeting with the locomotive engineer and the board of directors, and the concessions granted by same. After this was done a number of questions were asked and answered to the questioners' satisfaction. 

The chairman, on behalf of the men, then presented Brother P . Wright, delegate from Portsmouth, with a handsome marble clock, and in his remarks stated that it was a pleasure to be there to present this token of appreciation from the men, as it was a recognition of the good work done by him on their behalf. Brother P. Wright very suitably replied, after which the meeting closed at 2.0 p.m.

Nearly every London, Brighton and South Coast Railway locomotive-man attended this meeting, as well as some London and South-Western Railway men, and it has left a good impression.

ONE OF THE BOYS.

*Locomotive Journal

December 1912






A. S. R. S.

15TH NOVEMBER 1912

NEW CROSS
extracted from branch report

Weekly meeting held 9th inst.

Further correspondence from the Loco. Board of the L.B.&S.C. re firelighters and washers out not being included in the conciliation scheme, and branch decided to approach Head Office on the matter, and suggest they put the case before the Board of Trade.




Extracted and adapted from

Newhaven Branch Meeting

 Sunday Nov. 17th 1912


Letter read from Battersea re open meeting also resolution from Battersea Branch re signatures of all person off men to assert them to get all station pass for them.

Proposed Bro. C. Barrow & Seconded Bro. A. Pearce. 

"That this Branch does not think it will be any good having an open meeting for we shall get all the members we are gaining to get without a meeting." 

Carried





 

 PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 

NEWHAVEN LOCO SHED






A. S. R. S.

22ND NOVEMBER 1912

BATTERSEA
extracted from branch report

Usual meeting held on 15th inst.

The position of the coal men in the loco. department on the L.B.&S.C. was discussed and the secretary instructed to communicate with the general secrecy with view to something being done to assist the men in working the machinery of the new conciliation scheme.





NEWHAVEN BRANCH MINUTES


Minutes of the Open Meeting


Held at the Co-Operative Hall, Newhaven,


Sunday 1st December 1912

 

When a good muster was present to hear the report of Bros. Jack Enves (Brighton) & Smith 
of the recent Concessions granted by the Directors.

Proposed by Bro. F. Smith and Seconded by C. Barrow (Newhaven), 

'That Mr Warwick be chairman' Carried.

Mr Warwick (A.S.L.E.F. District Organiser) in a few remarks said no doubt the men knew 
what had been granted and gave a brief outline how the concessions were brought about and 
said he would not take up the the time was a lot to be said he would ask Bro. Jack Enves to 
give his report.

Bro. Jack Enves dealt with some length reading the correspondence that had passed between 
the Deputation and the Officials and then gave his report of the meeting with the Board of 
Directors and said they were meeting Mr. Billinton to discuss asking points that they were 
not satisfied with with re:- 8/- for Drivers, 4/9 for Firemen and holidays for Passed Cleaners, 
also passes for Firemen.

Bro. Smith said he did not think he could say any more than Bro. Jack Enves had said but he 
felt confident that when they went next time they would get a weeks holidays and thanked all present for their support and hoped they do the same next time as they need not be afraid as the officials did not look at the signatures.

Mr. Warwick then made a few remarks with regards to the concessions of other railways and 
said the Company worked on a basis one with another and said he did not think the Company had given much away as his opinion was that the Loco - Men were the back bone of the Company and urged all men to belong to their own Organisation, then they could demand what they wanted several questions were then asked and answered in a most able manner by the Chairman and he said he hoped he hoped he would be able to come and see them again, this brought to a close a very successful meeting when Bro. Fred Wilmshurst (Newhaven) proposed a vote of thanks to the Chairman seconded by A. Pearce (Newhaven).
Mr. Warwick replied and proposed a vote of thanks to Bros. Enves & Smith seconded by G. 
Wise. Bros. Jack Enves & F. Smith replied.

 

See W. Warwick's Locomotive Journal Report FEBRUARY 1913






  


PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN 

NEWHAVEN MARINE STATION





LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL


Extracted and adapted from 

A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

report on his visit to the Newhaven Branch meeting, 

on Sunday, 1st December, 1912


The following morning, Sunday 1st December 1912, I was astir be times in order to leave for Newhaven, where an open meeting was called in the afternoon to hear reports from two 
delegates, who, with others, had waited on the directors of the London, Brighton and South 
Coast Railway. The concessions granted compare favourably with what have been granted by other companies, but the question is : what have we to compare with ? On the strength of the promise by the Government after August, 1911, that they would be allowed to recoup 
themselves from the pockets of the public for concessions granted, the railway companies 
have doled out a few meagre improvements, amounting in some instances to one shilling per 
week, or two pence per day—just on a par with what any shopkeeper would think of offering his errand boy—an insult to a body of men like the footplate and motormen of this country. 

Then each railway company has been very careful not to out-do the others in these 
extravagant concessions, or do anything which could in any way be construed into a 
precedent, at the same time taking care to so jumble up conditions, wages, &c, that no two 
companies' men are receiving anything like the same remuneration for the same services 
performed. Of course, the astute official knows this gives him a fine trump card up his sleeve, so to speak, and while the men are content to approach them as .particular companies they can always ring the changes on that card by asking the very innocent question: "What other company's men are there that are better paid than you are ? " 

But to come back to the Newhaven meeting. I took the chair, and the delegates gave their report, which, as before said, was satisfactory by comparison. But there was one or two present who soon made it clear by their questions that with them it was not a question of whether the new conditions were satisfactory or not; they were present to show their disapproval of the manner in which they had been obtained, viz., by and through members of the Associated Society. Needless to say, these were the men who had pinned their faith to an all-grade society. As chairman, I did not attempt to stifle discussion, but allowed all the latitude possible, using both argument and diplomacy to try and get at the why and wherefore. But I found these men at Newhaven were not a bit more intelligent on these matters than others I have met; and so I failed to get anything more from them than the fact that they couldn't leave the shed unless the signalman turned the points, and they couldn't shunt the train unless there was a shunter present. I have been wondering ever since what that had to do with the concessions and the way they were obtained. However, I am pleased to say there are only one or two at Newhaven whose education has been neglected, and I hope the little branch I have opened there will soon bring them up-to-date.


* Locomotive Journal
February 1913




 LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL 


HORSHAM BRANCH

It is some long while since anything appeared in the Journal under this heading. Nevertheless we have been doing our little bit towards increasing our membership and extending our society. On Sunday December 1st, several of our members journeyed to Three Bridges, and with the help of one or two members who are stationed there, and Brother Harrison, of Battersea, a meeting was held for the purpose of hearing the report of the meeting of the board of directors and the representatives of the locomotive-men of the Brighton Railway. Brother W. H. Worcester was voted in the chair, and he asked Brother Harrison to give his report,which he did in a very intelligible manner. the chairman was then called upon to say a few words, but there was not very much left for him to say as Brother Harrison had given us a very full report. Questions were then invited. Though the attendance was not so large as one might have expected, considering the purpose of the meeting, it was very attentive and appreciated what was said. I might say that some of our A.S.R.S. friends were  present one of whom asked several questions (to clear the atmosphere a little) which were answered to his satisfaction. several other questions were asked and answered; and Brother Meadhurst, in a few well-chosen words, thanked us for coming. The usual votes of thanks being given, the meeting was brought to a close.

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A meeting was held the same afternoon, this being called by an A.S.R.S. member. who appears to have a good deal of influence on the men. This was very well attended, and Brothers Harrison and Worcester made it their business to be present. They also gave a report, and succeeded in getting the following resolution, which was moved by J. Neeve and seconded by W. Packham, both A.R.S.R. member, carried unanimously:-

"That the Three Bridges locomotive-men accept the concessions granted by the board of directors"

I think this is a very good work, considering (as I understand) that this meeting was held in opposition to ours in the morning.

At the ordinary meeting of the above branch, held on December 15th and before a fair attendance, a presentation was made to Brothers J. Worcester and J. Payne of an umbrella and a pipe. Brother P. Manvell, in making the presentation, said that all members in the western district were aware that our two brothers had taken a prominent part in connection with the branch in obtaining concessions and better conditions of service. He went on to say that the business their two delegates had carried on requested grit, courage, and self sacrifice, and that it reflected great credit on them for what they had assisted to accomplish for their comrades, and he was pleased the members had realized to the fullest extent what they had done. He said he had great pleasure, on behalf of the members, of showing that their valuable work was not forgotten and he hoped they would accept these presents, not so much for their intrinsic worth, as that they were a token of the appreciation of all the locomotive-men in the Horsham district. The umbrella, he hoped, would not only serve to shelter them in rough weather, but also from the storms they may have to encounter while doing their duty for their fellow men. A notable feature of the presentation was that the A.S.R.S. members also contributed, a proof of the amity existing in recognition of the good work. Brother J. Worcester said, in recording his thanks, that he was pleased he had given them satisfaction with no thought of anything of that kind; he had only tried to do his best, and was glad it met with their approbation. Brother J. Payne, in replying, said it was one of the greatest surprises in his life. What he had done was a labour of love; which was only what a man should do if possessed the ability and qualifications. He recognized the importance and the responsibility resting on locomotive-men, and considered in the interest of the Society, its members, and the companies, it was essential to hold counsel together, because it was the only means which tended to successful working. He thanked them all most kindly for the gift. Brother W. Buckham, our late secretary, was heartily thanked for the work he had done in connection with the presentation; always a characteristic feature with him in doing a kindness to all.

BRANCH SECRETARY

*Locomotive Journal

February 1913






A. S. R. S.

6TH DECEMBER 1912

THREE BRIDGES
extracted from branch report

Meeting held on 1st inst. 

Local grievances were before the meetings, and after discussion these were referred to the Brighton Council.

At 7.50 p.m. the meeting was thrown open for the purpose of hearing an address on the recent loco. settlement by Bro. Mayer, of New Cross. Several "nons" and members of the A.S.L.E&F. were present. Bro. Mayer dealt very fully with his subject, and for about an hour held the attention of the meeting.




 LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL


ST. LEONARD'S BRANCH


A special meeting was held at the Oddfellow’s Arms, on Sunday, December 15th, for the purpose of having a full report of the interviews which our delegates had with our locomotive engineer, Mr. L. Billinton, and board of directors. Brothers Enves, Brighton, and A. Marshall, Eastbourne, gave a full report of all correspondence that had passed and the concessions that were granted. Questions were asked and answered, after which a vote of thanks was passed to the speakers, on the proposition of Brother Croucher, seconded by Brother Nince.

Branch Secretary


*Locomotive Journal

February 1913







A. S. R. S.

20TH DECEMBER 1912

MORE CONCILIATION ON THE L. B. & S. C.


It is sometimes thought and said that non unionist are quite as competent to represent their mates before the company's representatives as Trade Unionist are, but it is doubtful if those working in the carriage and wagon doubtful, L.B.&S.C.,are now of that opinion, for a non unionist deputation recently interviewed the company with their programme for improved conditions of service, and it is questionable if the settlement arrived at does not leave them in a worse position than before. The only advantage that can be seen without a microscope is the slight reduction of hours. All other questions, such as rest, overtime payment, Sunday work, and wages, have been left to the discretion of the superintendent. The wording is too good to ignore, which reads as follows:

"Anything exceptional done by individual men will be specially dealt with by the superintendent."

Capital idea for others engaged in negotiations to adopt: leave it to the boss and he will see righted. There is one item, perhaps, which is a good one; that is, some of the staff will be supplied with coat and leggings every two years. 

This will make them more conspicuous for engine drivers, for at present some are walking skeletons, owing to the small wages they receive. Strange to relate, some of them are dissatisfied with the settlement, but a chief officer has informed these malcontents that if they do not mind they will soon be walking the streets, for he is determined to put down agitation. The men would be well advised to ignore such threats and join the A.S.R.S.






 LOCOMOTIVE  JOURNAL

DECEMBER 1912

BY RAIL ACROSS THE ENGLISH CHANNEL.

By FELIX J. KOCH 

Perhaps no one report has caused so much interest in transportation circles, the world about, as that of a train-ferry being established across the English Channel. Tourists from the United States 

in particular, who have writhed and groaned with the mal-de-mer when making the Channel crossing, will no doubt be among the most grateful at the innovation. 

According to news just come from Rouen, the much-discussed question of establishing ferry-service between Dieppe, France, and Newhaven, England, is likely to soon become an established fact.

At present, passengers and freight are transferred, at one city or the other, from the railway cars to steamers, transported across the English Channel and again loaded on the railway. By having ferry steamers, upon which the entire train could be transported without disturbing passengers and freight, not only would much annoyance and expense be saved, but also a considerable amount of time, now necessary to make these transfers, would be cut off in trips between London and Paris.

To undertake this service an Inter- national Railway Company was formed in the year 1910. It now states that negotiations with an English railway have been favourably received, and that a Bill permitting the establishment of the ferry has passed the British Parliament. The railway in question, with the French West State Railways, own and operate the steamers now running between Dieppe and Newhaven, and it is therefore considered certain that the other line involved will agree to this plan.

The new ferry will not exceed in length the one which has been so successful between Sweden and Germany. It is hoped to have the project inaugurated within a year.

To Americans, of course, it recalls, in miniature, the great railway ferry across the Mississippi, some few miles beyond New Orleans, or, again, across the Straits of Canso, at Mulgrave, in Canada, or over the Detroit River at the Michigan City.

Of course, the experience on each is almost identical. At New Orleans, taking this for example, before one-half suspects it, the train has run on to a boat fitted with three tracks, on each of which some of the cars have been switched. Then one is ferried across. Usually some of the passengers are glad of the chance to climb up into the cab of the engine and study its construction. Above rises the bridge, with the ferry operators—all about is the muddy water, and beyond, again, the great crescent that marks the city.

One feels a slight shaking underfoot as he walks around the boat, otherwise you would not know you were moving. In fact, when one takes his seat in the dining- car, before the other bank is reached, he will have become used to it and feel wholly unconscious of motion. 

 

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