NEWHAVEN ASLEF BRANCH MINUTES

1913

NEWHAVEN BRANCH OFFICERS 

1913

Chairman Bro. C. Barrow

Vice Chair Bro. W. Smith 

Secretary Bro. F. Wilmshurst


Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan. 12th 1913

Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair


Minutes read of last meeting, pro. F. Harris & sec. W. Smith. That they accepted as a true record.
Correspondence read from Brighton re interview with Mr. Billinton, also reply from General Manager, which was not very satisfactory.
Letter read from Bro. T. Hatcher Brighton Branch, asking for support for Annual Conference.
Locomens duties lists came up for discussion and it was Proposed by Bro. F. Harris & Seconded by Bro. A. Pearce. 
That the Secretary approach the Secretary of the A.S.R.S. asking for him for a copy of the same.
Orphan Fund came up for discussion, several going the same.
Report read of the dispute on the North Eastern and the part the Executive Committee took in the same.

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Victoria to Newhaven Continental Boat Train   

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan. 26th 1913

Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. H. Bowden & sec. J. Green. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter  read from Brighton re interview with Mr. Billinton 10 hours to count as one days holiday 50 hours for 8 days over time to be paid at the rate of 8 hours after 60 hours.

Letter read from Eastbourne asking for our support for Bro. A. Marshall for Annual General Meeting.

Secretary stated he had seen A.S.R.S. Secretary re loco-men's duties list and it was decided to let the matter stand over.


Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Feb. 9th 1913

Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. A. Pearce & sec. L. Lower. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter read from Head Office re member being stood off owing to small pox being in East part of the Town.

Letter read from Brighton, also telegram re coupling up. Discussion took place on the same and 

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Feb. 9th 1913

Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. A. Pearce & sec. L. Lower. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter read from Head Office re member being stood off owing to small pox being in East part of the Town.

Letter read from Brighton, also telegram re coupling up. Discussion took place on the same and it was proposed by Bro. F. Harris & seconded by Bro. W. Smith. 

That this branch express it dissatisfaction at the way the Company are imposing upon the men re coupling engines and pledge their support to the delegate in their endeavour to stop it.

LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL


FEBRUARY 1913


Extracted from A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report


on his visit to the Newhaven Branch meeting, on Sunday, 1st December, 1912


The following morning, Sunday, I was astir betimes in order to leave for Newhaven, where an open meeting was called in the afternoon to hear reports from two delegates, who, with others, had waited on the directors of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. The concessions granted compare favourably with what have been granted by other companies, but the question is : what have we to compare with ? On the strength of the promise by the Government after August, 1911, that they would be allowed to recoup themselves from the pockets of the public for concessions granted, the railway companies have doled out a few meagre improvements, amounting in some instances to one shilling per week, or two-pence per day—just on a par with what any shopkeeper would think of offering his errand boy—an insult to a body of men like the footplate, and motormen of this country. Then each railway company has been very careful not to out-do the others in these extravagant concessions, or do anything which could in any way be construed into a precedent, at the same time taking care to so jumble up conditions, wages, &c, that no two companies' men are receiving anything like the same remuneration for the same services performed. Of course, the astute official knows this gives him a fine trump card up his sleeve, so to speak, and while the men are content to approach them as particular companies they can always ring the changes on that card by asking the very innocent question: "What other company's men are there that are better paid than you are ? "

But to come back to the Newhaven meeting. I took the chair, and the delegates gave their report, which, as before said,was satisfactory by comparison. But there was one or two present who soon made it clear by their questions that with them it was not a question of whether the new conditions were satisfactory or not ; they were present to show their disapproval of the manner in which they had been obtained, viz., by and through members of the Associated Society. Needless to say, these were the men who had pinned their faith to an all-grade society. As chairman, I did not attempt to stifle discussion, but allowed all the latitude possible, using both argument and diplomacy to try and get at the why and wherefore. But I found these men at Newhaven were not a bit more intelligent on these matters than others I have met; and so I failed to get anything more from them than the fact that they couldn't leave the shed unless the signalman turned the points, and they couldn't shunt the train unless there was a shunter present. I have been wondering ever since what that had to do with the concessions and the way they were obtained. How-ever, I am pleased to say there are only one or two at Newhaven whose education has been neglected, and I hope the little branch I have opened there will soon bring them up-to-date. 

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 9th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. F. Sherwin & sec. A. Pearce. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter read re coupling up of engines being settled also promise from General Manager re loco-men for Motor jobs.

Letter read asking for grievances at this depot so as the grievance committee can take up same.

One member claimed suspension pay and a strong discussion took place on the same and seeing the members was of a mix feeling on the matter it was Proposed by Bro. F. Sherwin & Seconded by Bro. C. Barrow. 

That the Secretary be instructed to write to Brighton asking their ruling on the same.

 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 23rd 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. H. Bowden & sec. W. Smith. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter read from Brighton re grievance meeting.

Bro. Bowden paid one days suspension pay.

Voting paper to hand for A.G.M

 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday May 4th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. H. Bowden & sec. F. Sherwin. That they accepted as a true record.

Correspondence read from the delegation to the Officials, also reply from same dealing with the Electric question.

Report read from grievance committee re list of grievance settled

Letter of thanks from Eastbourne re A.G.M.

Secretary gave his report of delegates meetings. 

 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 1st 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. A. Pearce & sec. W. Smith. That they accepted as a true record.

Correspondence read and noted, discussion took place re oldest Fireman on passenger train and was decide that men affected see the Foreman.

 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 15th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. F. Sherwin & sec. A. Pearce. That they accepted as a true record.

Correspondence read and noted. Voting paper for T.U.C. to hand.

 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on the Sunday September 28th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Correspondence read re Loco-men being paid for learning the electric in their own time.

Discussion took place re. Bro. W. Smith’s illness and it was decided to each pay 4 pence and clear his card and see what could be done with a substitution list later on.

Proposed by Bro. J. Green & Seconded Bro. A. Pearce. That Albert Simmonds be admitted as a member of this Society.

Bro. Goldsmith undertook to sell draw tickets in aid of the blind. 

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on the Sunday November 30th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read and discussed, pro. F. Sherwin & sec. W. Smith. That they accepted as a true record.

Discussion took place re Clearing members card, Pro. by Bro. H. Bowden & Sec. by C. Barrow. 

That each member shall pay 3 pence and clear the same. Carried.

Resolution from Brighton Branch was read re electric trains. Pro. Bro. F. Sherwin & Sec. by Bro. W. Smith. That we support the same.
Minutes to hand of Delegates meeting held at London Nov. 3rd. Accepted.
Letter from Head Officer re Great Western men’s resolution of Nov. 28th and noted.
Letter read asking for list of grievances and it was decided the same stand over.


Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on the Sunday December 28th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. W. Smith & sec. A. Pearce. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter read re L.N.W. men action in regards motormen’s position.

Discussion took place regards clearing members card, Pro. C. Barrow & Sec. W. Smith. 

That a fund be raised to clear the same and that we pay half-penny per week and Bro. A. Pearce be collector.

Questions then arose see we have Full & Half Benefit members how should clear cards. Pro. 

W. Smith & Sec. A. Pearce. That we should pay protection only of 4d. Carried.

Election of Officers

Pro. Bro. C. Barrow & sec. D. Boyle that A. Pearce be Chairman

Pro. Bro. D. Boyle & sec. J. Green that W. Smith be Vice Chairman

Pro Bro. C. Pearce & sec Bro. D. Boyle that F. Wilmshurst be Secretary

H. Bowden Check Steward.

Committee

F. Harris, F. Sherwin, J. Green, C. Barrow & D. Boyle, be on the Committee for 12 months.

There was no recorded Branch meetings between 

December 28th 1913 -  July 27th 1917



NEWHAVEN BRANCH OFFICERS 

1914 -17

Chairman Bro. A. Pearce

Vice Chair Bro. W. Smith 

Secretary Bro. F. Wilmshurst



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